New P7100 Programming

[edacsnoob]

I just received some new P7100s and I am trying to program them with the same personality I have used for all of my other like radios. ProGrammer gives me an error that states something to the fact that the encryption data is not found in the correct place or is the wrong format, and to use recovery to fix the problem. All that I have read I should just push the recovery button and be done, but it asks for a file with a .bin extension, I only have one file that pops up and it will not let me use it. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

Sounds like you are attempting to program a radio that requires RPM, not Programmer.
Check the flash code, if it is 13 or above, it requires RPM, and that should be in the documentation you received with the radio

 

[edacsnoob]

And it is. Is there anyway around so that I can use Programmer?

 

[WCRadioGuy]

And it is. Is there anyway around so that I can use Programmer?

I don't believe there is without sending the radio back to M/A-Com. Attempting to recover the radio using ProGrammer will result in having to send the radio back to be re-encrypted. You will need to upgrade to RPM.

 

[MR-EDACS]

First things First what you need to do is get the feature string out of the radio. Since I am guessing you are not able to read the radio hopefully the radio has the " FEATURES " selection enabled in the menu. This will get you the feature string which is a bunch of Hex numbers in pairs and they always start with a 01 as the first bit. You will also want to write down the ESN of the radio which is also in the FEATURE section of the MENU. This way you will not have to call Macom to get a new feature string. It does not matter if you use RPM or Programmer the feature string stays the same for that particular radio. You can also look at the REVISION selection in the MENU as well this will tell you what radio code is in the radio and the DSP. It will also tell you what version of software was used to program the radio. If you see the number 50.0 or higher it was programed with RPM Lower it was done with Programmer. You can down grade a radio back to programmer, but it is not recomened get gets really involved, As I have done it several time on some VHF ones I own. Remember be careful you can make a radio a brick really fast so think before you hit the RECOVERY button. Since there has been a lot of questions on this topic I am going to write a guide on flashing and tracking data edit procedures to help out everyone. The guide will be a lot like the one that was written for the ASTRO radios that someone else did some time back.

 

[MASTRTECH]

The bottom line is, you must use RPM. Programmer won't work to read or write.

 

[edacsnoob]

Is a ProGrammer Personality the same type of file in RPM? I guess I am trying to see if anyone can program these radios for me in RPM if I provided a personality, I cant afford the program and I don't want to give my local shop the pleasure of them knowing that they got me to where I can't program my own stuff now.

 

[JungleJim]

No, RPM personalities are different as they take advantage of the newer radios expanded memory to open up the number of talkgroups per system, alpha tags, etc. RPM can import programmer personalities quite easily though.

 

[frmichaud]

My jaguar 725 has serial number SR# FFF1 88080000, Which version of software was used to program it, Can I use Programmer 16?
Thanks

 

[ElroyJetson]

There is a method, documented in the instructions that come with RPM, which will allow you to "downgrade" a 7100 so that it can again be programmed and read with ProGrammer.

Any radio that was made to be read and written with ProGrammer can be restored to being readable
and writable with ProGrammer, even if it was upgraded to RPM compatibility, using the documented
method. But radios that were never supported by ProGrammer and are RPM-dependent can of course
NOT be downgraded to ProGrammer compatibility.


Elroy

 

[willbartlett]

P7100ip question

Hi All.

I picked up a couple 7100ip at dayton, the pers. version is a 31.00 and the DSP version is f7p02b08 which I haven't seen reference to here yet (been digging through the archives).

Simple questions:

The feature string says it's P25 capable, any chance the radio can be made to work 440-450 in P25?

what version of programmer will support this?

Thanks, in advance.

Also, Elroy, your choice of color scheme for the system 7100 keypad LED rework is a work of art.........

Thanks, Will

 

[willbartlett]

Also, what's in the new tq3419 cable. Is it simply tx/rx/gnd or is there more going on there?

Also, should mention, the p7100ip is a system model, 378-430mhz. I assume ham ops are a pipe dream.......

Thanks, Will

 

[ElroyJetson]

The TQ3419 cable, is that the one that's RIBless? No programming interface required?

If so, that plastic block in the midle of the cable contains the RS232 to TTL level converter, essentially that IS the interface box.

I don't have that exact cable, I have the keyloader version of it. Which also works as a programming cable, which is good as I don't have a keyloader.

FYI, my cable's part number is RPM 2472/36 R1A

I do like playing games with the backlight LED colors. Boredom can lead to stupid ideas.

It also helps to differentiate my personal radios from those used by and owned by the county and
other agencies. The TX/RX LEDs on my "main" 7100IP are blue. In retrospect, I should have left the
TX LED red. Then, in encryption mode, I'd have purple. (For those who don't know about it, when
the radio is in encryption mode, both LEDs light during transmit. This gives orange on a stock radio.)

I can't say for sure but I think that any version of ProGrammer that supports the 7100 will support the
UHF low split 7100.

Your personality revision 31 indicates the radio was last programmed with version 17. (Revision minus 14 equals RPM version. For RPM-programmed radios, 50 means RPM v. 1, 51 means RPM v. 2, 52 means RPM v. 3, etc.)

The UHF low split radios are simply a problem if they're not in the band you need. Conversion is not
impossible but it's not exactly easy, either. For starters, the TX-RX switch/filter unit sticking up out of
the top of the board has to be changed out. And, they are a massive bear to change. Unsoldering
it is hard enough, and the pin holes are so small that it's very tough to suck the solder out. I end up
using a drill bit to drill the solder out, by hand. (No power drill, just a tiny little brace and bit.)

If you look at the UHF manual, you'll see that a LOT changes besides just the TX/RX filter unit.

Frankly, I see those UHF low split radios with nice feature sets as a way to put their nice feature
set into a radio in a better bandsplit that is lacking in good features. Swap the ESN chip and the
feature string and you're done. But be gentle. If you break the ESN chip, you are most definitely hosed. I suggest using only a hot air gun to solder/desolder the ESN chip to avoid placing mechanical
stress on it.

Elroy

 

[Thayne]

I need to program a new P7100 Model MAHT-T81NX
DSP is F4R06H01

The Flash is J2R11B01 I am thinking that flash does not require RPM; does anyone know what the oldest version of ProGrammer is that will do this radio?

 

[Thayne]

P7100

Anybody know this one?

I need to program a new P7100 Model MAHT-T81NX
DSP is F4R06H01

The Flash is J2R11B01 I am thinking that flash does not require RPM; does anyone know what the oldest version of ProGrammer is that will do this radio?

 

[bar422]

PM sent

 

[HarrisRF]

R11B01 is for V20

 

[wireless_friendly]

Hi Guys!

What's software needed to program 7100 with Flash J2R15E05? RPM only?

What's latest Flash version supported by latest version ProGrammer?

Wha's latest version ProGrammer?