New station numbers for Lawerence Twp/Marion County

[W9NES]

This was in the Indianapolis Star Today Tues 1-12-10.New station numbers for Lawerence Twp getting ready to merge with IFD. Current Fire Stations---331 at 6220E 86Th Street is Now IFD Station 9,Station 332--7139East 75Th street is now IFD Station IFD station 17, Station 333- 10190East 86Th Street is now IFD Station 28 and Station 334 at 7620Oaklandon Road is now IFD station 34.Merger has not gone thru yet but they are getting everything ready."A merger could take place withing the next year" along with a public meeting to take place in front of the Lawerence Township Board.This was a direct quote from The Indianapolis Star paper.

 

[FD_1226]

This was in the Indianapolis Star Today Tues 1-12-10.New station numbers for Lawerence Twp getting ready to merge with IFD. Current Fire Stations---331 at 6220E 86Th Street is Now IFD Station 9,Station 332--7139East 75Th street is now IFD Station IFD station 17, Station 333- 10190East 86Th Street is now IFD Station 28 and Station 334 at 7620Oaklandon Road is now IFD station 34.Merger has not gone thru yet but they are getting everything ready."A merger could take place withing the next year" along with a public meeting to take place in front of the Lawerence Township Board.This was a direct quote from The Indianapolis Star paper.

Lawrence Township Station/apparatus numbers changed over today. What the Star didn't report was the renumbering This is NOT due to any anticipation of a merger. IFD is switching to a new RMS system that requires unit identifiers to only have 4 characters,

And the stations are still Lawrence Township and NOT IFD

 

[W9NES]

Sorry but All Lawerence Township Fire Stations are now under the New IFD Station numbers.I spoke with a Lt with Lawerence Township Fire Depatment who is a family friend he did confirm that the stations are now IFD stations.He did confrim that there will be a "Merger".You are correct but when a new station gets a new station number the trucks get new truck numbers to go along with the new stations number*Look at The old Washington Township Fire Department now IFD. Station 222 is now Station 12, Station 221 is now Station 21, Station 223 is now IFD Station 6, Station 224 is now IFD Station 4, and Station 225 is now IFD Station 8*

 

[FD_1226]

Sorry but All Lawerence Township Fire Stations are now under the New IFD Station numbers.I spoke with a Lt with Lawerence Township Fire Depatment who is a family friend he did confirm that the stations are now IFD stations.He did confrim that there will be a "Merger".You are correct but when a new station gets a new station number the trucks get new truck numbers to go along with the new stations number*Look at The old Washington Township Fire Department now IFD. Station 222 is now Station 12, Station 221 is now Station 21, Station 223 is now IFD Station 6, Station 224 is now IFD Station 4, and Station 225 is now IFD Station 8*

You are missing the point. Even though they have "IFD #s" now they are still Lawrence Township Fire. Not IFD. There will be a merger but its not going to be official for some time still.

 

[W9NES]

No I am not missing the point at all.the point is They are IFD stations and this was direct from a Lt. on Lawerence Twp Fire that I have know from years and the story was direct from a press release from the Chiefs office.If their is not going to do a meger soon then why did the re-number the fire stations and the appraturs are now being dispatched by IFD are the new station numbers.*The merger is in the works and will be happing soon and this is fron inside Lawerence Twp Fire*.They falled to tell the star that also and that was left out of the story.

 

[bamx2]

No I am not missing the point at all.the point is They are IFD stations and this was direct from a Lt. on Lawerence Twp Fire that I have know from years and the story was direct from a press release from the Chiefs office.If their is not going to do a meger soon then why did the re-number the fire stations and the appraturs are now being dispatched by IFD are the new station numbers.*The merger is in the works and will be happing soon and this is fron inside Lawerence Twp Fire*.They falled to tell the star that also and that was left out of the story.

Doesn't look like its IFD stations.... looks more like its LTFD stations to me...

Lawrence fire houses get new numbers


In a move that could lead the Lawrence Township Fire Department closer to a merger with the Indianapolis Fire Department, the numbers of its fire stations have been changed.

"This is a small change, but it demonstrates that the merger process between Lawrence Township and IFD is moving forward," Fire Chief Mike Blackwell said in a statement from his office.

Lawrence Township Station 331, at 6260 E. 86th St., has been renumbered Station 9. Station 332, at 7139 E. 75th St., will now be called Station 17. Station 333, at 10190 E. 86th St., has been changed to Station 28, and Station 334, at 7620 Oaklandon Road, has become Station 34.

The change is needed to prepare for a potential merger of Lawrence Township and IFD.

Representatives of both departments have been discussing a merger for the past two months. A merger could take place within the next year, and a public meeting on the merger before the Lawrence Township Board could occur in a few weeks.

 

[SCPD]

This is for the possible merger with IFD they have done this with the other township radio and Fire ID # to aline with the current IFD # system note the change falls in line with IFD # listed. Merger to happen some time in 2010 been in works for a while and a lot of political twisting to merg the townships in they do not go to the trouble of major changes like this if it is not going to happen. Note list is current untill LWTSP changes ID's

Battalion Command 02

Battalion Command 04

Battalion Command 06

Battalion Command 11

Battalion Command 12

Battalion Command 13

Battalion Command 14

Station 1

Station 2

Station 3

Station 4

Station 5

Station 6

Station 7

Station 8

Station 10

Station 11

Station 12

Station 13

Station 14

Station 15

Station 16

Station 18

Station 19

Station 20

Station 21

Station 22

Station 23

Station 24

Station 25

Station 27

Station 29

Station 30

Station 31

Station 32

Station 33

Station 41

Station 42

Station 43

Station 44

Station 45

Station 61

Station 62

Station 63

Station 64

IFD Radio Numbers



Radio Numbers
Description
CAD Designation

Battalion
Battalion Chief
BC 2, 4, 6,
BC 11, 12, 13,14

Engine
Engine Companies
E01 - E64

Ladder
Ladder Companies
L0l - L64

Squad
Light Rescue Squads
SQ 7 - 29

SR
Strike Rig (manpower company)
SR05 - SR18

Foam 10
Foam Unit
FM18

Boat 7
Rescue Boat
BT07, 14

Extrication
Extrication
TC4,6,7,10,14,19,
20,21,22,29,30,44

TSU
Tactical Support Unit (Air Mask - Rehab)
TSU 10 - 18 - 29

TAC 1
Trench Rescue
TC 01, 5, 10

TAC 7
Heavy Rescue
TC 06, 07, 14

TAC 13
Hazardous Materials Unit
TC 13, 21, 44

TAC 14
Dive Team
Rope Rescue
TC 7, 14
TC 4, 43

TAC 19
Decontamination Unit
TC 19, 31

TAC 29
Urban Search Team
TC 29


Car Numbers


1100
Chief of Department
1100

1101
Asst. Chief Operations
1101

1102
Asst. Chief of Administration
1102

1103
Public Information Officer
1103

1104
Recruitment Officer
1104

1106
Photographer
1106

1107
USAR/INTF1 Battalion Chief
1107

1108
USAR/INTF1
1108

1111
Chief's Field Representative
1111

1112
Chief of Planning and Transition
1112

1120-1122
Chaplains
1120,1121,1122

1200
Division Chief Ops
1200

1201
Shift Commander
1201

1202
Safety Division Battalion Chief
1202

1203-1205
Safety Officer
1203 (North)
1204 (Center)
1205 (South)

1205
Accountability Officer
1205

1207
Battalion Chief Special Operations
1207

1208
Captain Special Operations
1208

1210
Hazmat
1210

1211
SCBA Program Manager
1211

1212
Quartermaster
1212

1213
Safety Office Coord.
1213

1300
Battalion Chief Fire Prevention/Fire Marshal
1300

1301
Asst Fire Marshal
1301

1310-1365
Fire Prevention Inspectors
1310,1321,1322,1330,
1340,1351,1362,1363,1365

1375
Victims Assistance
1375

1400
Division Chief Admin
1400

1401
IT/RMS
1401

1430
Pension Secretary
1430

1501-1502
Support Services
1501-1502

1555
Fuel Truck
1555

1559
Shop Car
1559

1600
Communications Director
1600

1601
Asst. Communications Dir
1601

1700
Division Chief Training
1700

1701
Batallion Chief Training
1701

1703-1710
Training Officers
1703,1704,1707,
1708,1709,1710

1800
Division Chief EMS
1800

1801
EMS Ops
1801

1822-1823
EDO
1822 (North)
1823 (South)

2582
Arson Commander
2582

2576-2586
Fire Investigators
2576,2581,2583,
2584,2586

2587
Fire Stop
2587

Private Medic
Private Ambulance
PMEDIC

Medic
Wishard Ambulance
M01 - M43

100 Series
Fire Companies with 100 Series #s Pike Township Fire Dept.
E111 (etc)

300 Series
Fire Companies with 300 Series #s Lawrence Township Fire Dept.
E331 (etc)

500 Series
Fire Companies with 500 Series #s Franklin Township Fire Dept.
E551 (etc)

700 Series
Fire Companies with 700 Series #s Decatur Township Fire Dept.
E771 (etc)

800 Series
Fire Companies with 800 Series #s Wayne Township Fire Dept.
E881 (etc)

 

[W9NES]

Thank You W8FCC for your input on this matter at hand and setting the record straight.

 

[exdry]

That list is an older one as the only departments that still has 3 digit numbers is pike,speedway and beech grove...not sure about the airport though

 

[FD_1226]

That list is an older one as the only departments that still has 3 digit numbers is pike,speedway and beech grove...not sure about the airport though

The Airport sometimes uses the extra 9, when dispatching other times it's just the last two numbers,

 

[FD_1226]

No I am not missing the point at all.the point is They are IFD stations and this was direct from a Lt. on Lawerence Twp Fire that I have know from years and the story was direct from a press release from the Chiefs office.If their is not going to do a meger soon then why did the re-number the fire stations and the appraturs are now being dispatched by IFD are the new station numbers.*The merger is in the works and will be happing soon and this is fron inside Lawerence Twp Fire*.They falled to tell the star that also and that was left out of the story.

They had to renumber because IFD Communications is switching to a new RMS system that requires unit identifiers to only have 4 characters.

The CAD currently displays units as E08, M21, TSU31. After the change, units will be identified like EG08, MD21, TS31.

LTFD has always been dispatched at MECA.

 

[pliquett]

If that is the reason for the change then won't Pike, Beech Grove, Speedway and the Airport have to change from 3 digit to 2 digit, not to mention MECA sometimes dispatches Plainfield and Avon to assist and they use 3 digit numbers as well.

 

[W9NES]

*MECA is not dispatching Plainfield and Avon.*What you are hearing is a dispatch for Hendricks County Communications to dispatch Plainfield and Avon to assist Marion County.Hendricks County Communications takes care of dispatching Avon and Plainfield.I hear engine 885 assiting Hendricks Co Fire All the time and When IFD dispathes E885 the dispatch says "Check MDT for radio channel".Plainfield and Avon on on Safe-t(Not MECA) but when Hendricks County needs assistance from Marion County you will hear the Marion Co Units on Hendricks County safe-t talkgroups working with them*.IFD has been putting this out since they went on MECA*.Hendricks County Communications has a monitor set up to mointor the talkgroup for IFD dispatch in there communications center.When you hear the dispatch Hendricks County hears it to and will dispatch on there Safe-t talkgroup.This is called "Mutual aid" as 154.280 Fire Point to point is no longer used or monitored in Metro Indianapolis/Marion County by MECA Control Operators.

 

[FD_1226]

If that is the reason for the change then won't Pike, Beech Grove, Speedway and the Airport have to change from 3 digit to 2 digit, not to mention MECA sometimes dispatches Plainfield and Avon to assist and they use 3 digit numbers as well.

I know Pike will have to renumber so I can only assume that Speedway & Beech Grove will as well. I haven't heard anything about the Airport but they would only have to drop the extra 9.

 

[W9NES]

Airport Fire is now being Dispatched by IFD on there Talkgroup on MECA with "RoboReta".Also IFD is dispatching Lawerence City fire on there Talkgroup on MECA. Speedway Fire is now being dispatched by IFD. Beech Grove is being Dispatched by IFD. All the Fire Dispatch Talkgroups for Airport, Lawerence City,Speedway,Beech Grove have "RoboReta" as a dispatcher.Sounds like IFD is also getting ready to take over all three.Changes are going to happen.If not the Departments would have still have live dispatching for there agency

 

[SCPD]

As part of the impending consolidation process with Indianapolis Fire Department, LTFD stations have been renumbered:

Station 331 - now Station 9
Station 332 - now Station 17
Station 333 - now Station 28
Station 334 - now Station 34

Command/staff vehicles will still retain their 300-series numbers.

This is strait from LTFD

 

[W9NES]

Thank You W8FCC for taking care of this matter at hand and checking with your source with LTFD for verfiying this infomation

 

[bodyguardone]

Fire Dispatch

Airport Fire is now being Dispatched by IFD on there Talkgroup on MECA with "RoboReta".Also IFD is dispatching Lawerence City fire on there Talkgroup on MECA. Speedway Fire is now being dispatched by IFD. Beech Grove is being Dispatched by IFD. All the Fire Dispatch Talkgroups for Airport, Lawerence City,Speedway,Beech Grove have "RoboReta" as a dispatcher.Sounds like IFD is also getting ready to take over all three.Changes are going to happen.If not the Departments would have still have live dispatching for there agency

IFD is NOT dispatching for Airport F.D., the excluded cities or the excluded town (City of Lawrence, Beech Grove and Speedway) unless it's a mutual aid run. All the Marion County PSAPs are connected to the new Locution Fire House Alerting System. Each PSAP dispatches it's own apparatus. Any PSAP can dispatch any apparatus in Marion County by adding it to the CAD run stream (that's how mutual aid runs are handled). There is one database for the Locution system. All PSAPs use the same database. Hendrick's County agencies will begain using the system later this year. The current PSAP consolidation law may cause some changes in the future.

 

[FD_1226]

IFD is NOT dispatching for Airport F.D., the excluded cities or the excluded town (City of Lawrence, Beech Grove and Speedway) unless it's a mutual aid run. All the Marion County PSAPs are connected to the new Locution Fire House Alerting System. Each PSAP dispatches it's own apparatus. Any PSAP can dispatch any apparatus in Marion County by adding it to the CAD run stream (that's how mutual aid runs are handled). There is one database for the Locution system. All PSAPs use the same database. Hendrick's County agencies will begain using the system later this year. The current PSAP consolidation law may cause some changes in the future.

You are exactly correct. You beat me to say the same thing. All Township fire departments are dispatched by IFD Fire Control out at MECA. Speedway, Beechgrove, and Lawrence (City) have there own centers same with the Airport..

 

[W9NES]

OK then why is IFD dispatching Speedway Engine 201,Beech Grove Engine 102,*On Marion County Fire Dispatch and Not only is*RoboReta* dispatching them but also *RoboReta* is dispacthing City of Lawerence and Airport Fire on *Their Fire Dispatch Talkgroups* If IFD was not gong to merge with all the above there would be "Live dispatching*.Also I talked with The Speedway Fire Chief who happens to be a very close family friend that I have known for years and he told me that when he went to The last Marion County Fire Chiefs meeting that *Was not open to the public* a couple of weeks ago A board member from IFD told all of them that *IFD was taking over control of all County Township Fire Departments and changes are being made for the Merger*He was also told that there would would be no more Township Fire Departments and all the Trucks setting in there stations would have a IFD doorshield on the side of the door along with "Indianapolis Fire Department" on the cab of the Engine, Medic,Ladder, etc. Also a contact with Mayor Ballards office was there and he said the Mayor is moving on this to get the job done.Also all current County Firefighters would become IFD Firefighters after the station numbers are changed, truck numbers get NEW numbers and the current firefighters do paperwork with IFD to get there benifits thru The City Of Indianapolis.This is the current infomation direct from the source!!!!