New To SMS100 - Program New CAP+ System

[rkillins]

I am new to the SMS100. Not a machine for the faint of heart.
Anyway, I am trying to program a new CAP+ system in my area ... it's not yet provided at Radioreference so it's not in the radio's database.
I've been using DSD+ fastlane to watch this new system ... I have the frequencies, and some talkgroups. It's not a very busy system. All I have is one confirmed LCN.
So, when it comes to programming the SDS100 with the system (I do have the DMR upgrade), what should I do when I don't know the LCN order, or the COlor Code? If I leave the LCNs at 0, and the Color Code set to Color Code Search, will this system track OK onthe SDS100? Will it figure the rest out? Or do I not have enough basic information?

 

[TexTAC]

There is an LCN finder in the menu system under “Analyze” that will help you find the other LCNs. May take a while if the system is not very active.

 

[rkillins]

Thanks TexTAC. If I enable that, do I have to sit on that system? Or will it analyze evn in scan mode? I do see the radio flashing the color code periodically. It must be doing that when it hits the rest channel.

 

[TexTAC]

I think you have to sit on the LCN finder mode. It doesn’t scan at the same time. Run it overnight. Plus it should pick up where you left off if you stop/start.

 

[hiegtx]

Thanks TexTAC. If I enable that, do I have to sit on that system? Or will it analyze evn in scan mode? I do see the radio flashing the color code periodically. It must be doing that when it hits the rest channel.

You will need to let it sit when using the LCN Finder. You cannot also scan other items at the same time.

I would suggest that you let it scan, say, overnight, and see if it gets all the LCNs. For the LCN Finder to work, you need enough activity that the various channels are used. Too much activity & it may not able to stick to the LCN order. too little, and you won't find all of the channels. On a really slow system (very little activity), it cold even take a couple of days to fill in the blanks. If you have the LSNs from DSD+, you might be able to fill in the blanks using it. See this thread for more:

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[rkillins]

Thank you folks.I have used DSD+ prior to me getting the SDS100 ... that's how I found the system, but it has provided much on this very slow system. It is rare to see more than 2 talkgroups active at one time, and when two talkgroups are active, they share the same frequency between the two slots. So I have one LCN out of 5 known freqs.

I am new to the SDS and unless I am doing somethging wrong ... a) my LCN analysis doesn't seem to retain it's finds between sessions. I have retype the system name to analyse and then it starts over without any of the information found in previous sessions; b) when analyse finds an LCN (which it has ... LCN 1), will it apply/update that to the system created in the favourites list or do I have to manually update the data with the information the analyze finction discovers?

 

[TexTAC]

It should prompt you to save the LCNs. The manual says “Once all LCNs are found, you can save the LCNs to the system. If you abort before all LCNs are found, you can still save the LCNs that were found up to that point.”

Edited to add: I just did a LCN scan on one of my systems. Once it finds at least one LCN press the soft key below “to scan” and it will ask “Stop LCN Finder and save found LCNs?”? Press “E” for yes.

 

[hiegtx]

Thank you folks.I have used DSD+ prior to me getting the SDS100 ... that's how I found the system, but it has provided much on this very slow system. It is rare to see more than 2 talkgroups active at one time, and when two talkgroups are active, they share the same frequency between the two slots. So I have one LCN out of 5 known freqs.

I am new to the SDS and unless I am doing somethging wrong ... a) my LCN analysis doesn't seem to retain it's finds between sessions. I have retype the system name to analyse and then it starts over without any of the information found in previous sessions; b) when analyse finds an LCN (which it has ... LCN 1), will it apply/update that to the system created in the favourites list or do I have to manually update the data with the information the analyze finction discovers?

Note that when you activate the LCN Finder, under Analyze in the scanner's menu, it resets all LCNs to zero before trying to find their correct value. If, after running the finder, and identifying one or more LCNs, you read the scanner back into Sentinel (or ProScan, or ARC536), you will have the data saved on your PC. But if you try to run the utility again, every LCN on the scanner itself will roll back to zero. Preferably, it would save what you had, instead of "re-inventing the wheel' every time, but it does not work that way.

If DSD gives you the LSN for each frequency, the thread I linked shows how to convert the LSNs into a valid LCN. But if your system is so lightly used that even DSD does not identify all of them, then there's not much else you can do other than periodically trying again to see if there's enough usage to complete the finder's search.

Note that while there may be five frequencies on the license, that does not guarantee that all of them are used on the site itself. If you have ProScan, you could program the orphans that LCN Finder never identifies either as conventional channels, or as separate sites in an OFT system, and let the logger keep tabs. That would at least let you see if they are being used at all.

 

[TexTAC]

I am glad Hiegtx wrote that because it reset 3 of 4 of my LCNs back to 0 when I tested it out. I would not have known it did that and would have been wondering why that system wasn’t working correctly anymore.

 

[fastgone]

Where do I download the new sentinel for SDS200 ? It is the 2.0 rev 01 ver

 

[hiegtx]

Current version is 2.02, version 01

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