Two things I can think of. Does your work use a repeater? If so, then you will have different transmit and receive freqs, and could have different CTCSS assigned to each.
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Two things I can think of. Does your work use a repeater? If so, then you will have different transmit and receive freqs, and could have different CTCSS assigned to each.
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You've given us a hint as to the possible problem. It appears as if the transmit tone on the Baofeng is the issue. To confirm that the tone is the problem - do this... While transmitting on your Baofeng, press the MON button on the Motorola. If you can hear the Baofeng when you do this, it indicates that the Baofeng may not be transmitting a CTCSS tone, or perhaps the wrong one.
As I've said previously, the Baofeng radios must be programmed in a particular way (which is NOT intuitive). If I recall correctly, the Baofeng CTCSS tone can be set only during the actual channel programming process. Although you can adjust the tone setting (menu 13) at any time, it does not actually change the tone being transmitted.
Check your Baofeng manual (or the Miklor.com site online) to confirm that you are programming your desired channel and tone in the correct sequence. If you don't program the channel properly, the tone function might not work and you will not be able to hear the Baofeng on the Motorola radio.
Keep us advised.
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I'm betting bharvey2 nailed it; check Menu-25 (Shift Direction/"SFT-D"). If it's set to +or -, change it to OFF (simplex).
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Well, I'm thinking about just keeping it around for a scanner now. I've been up and down the milkor pages, have tried manual and PC programming, am positive I have the correct CTCSS codes for transmitting and receiving, along with the right frequency. The company uses no repeaters. Still getting transmissions to my BF clear as day from the motorolas, and they're detecting a transmission is in progress from the BF, but there's no audio transmitting from the BF to the motorolas. I hear static when monitoring, but the static stops when the BF is transmitting, though I still hear nothing on the motorola side. This is the most irritating thing I've dealt with thusfar in terms of getting things to work together. Plus I feel kinda dumb for not just being able to input the frequency, and CTCSS codes, and have it work. I've not found any transmit inhibitor, either.
Bug #211: UV5R - Prevent transmit on desird frequencies - Part 2 - CHIRP
Transmit inhibit is hidden under another setting, check this out if you are using CHIRP. If you are using other software, I have no idea where you will find it.
Transmit inhibit is hidden under another setting, check this out if you are using CHIRP. If you are using other software, I have no idea where you will find it.
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I'm using regular BF programming software, but I'll definitely try CHIRP out. Because I really (and the business as well) wanna use the BF, as it'd free up a radio and they're short on radios as is. They went so far as to tell the other officer workin here that they wanted him to get a radio. So far, the only thing he's been able to say is "well it didn't work for him, so I'm not gonna get one" I really wanna get it to work so he has no leg to stand on anymore.
The only thing you may gain is more power output on the Baofeng but the Motorola has .18uv sensitivity compared to .35 for the Baofeng so the Motorola is 6db better on receive and it likely won't be desensed like the Baofeng
Plus, if something would occur on the job that caused injury or loss of life because your Baofeng didn't work, you and your company could be sued
Plus, if something would occur on the job that caused injury or loss of life because your Baofeng didn't work, you and your company could be sued
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I've no idea what your employer is using the radios for, rashly guessing that's a Part90 licensed business system? If it is only using one channel, I think you can buy a clean used "real" radio from Motorola, Kenwood, Icom, etc. that will do a much better job at half the cost of a new radio.
The BaoFeng's present some liability problems for a business, as there are very few that are legal for most uses, even if they are unlikely to be caught. (Corporate types tend to get upset about the odds.) And as noted, there are also real performance differences. The software in those Chinese radios is pretty good, but it can't do the job of the actual hardware bits in the commercial licensed brands.
You could look at that the same way you might look at commercial food handling: What you do in your own kitchen, at hand, just isn't going to be accepted in the food service industry. The reasons aren't always obvious but they should be considered.
If that's all old news..."nevermind". It is just something that needs to be considered, if the business is going to start telling people to supply radios for anything more than casual personal listening. The lack of any real "factory" support on most of the imported radios is just the tip of the iceburg.
And, many of the vendors of clean used commercial radios will include programming, to match the business license terms or yours, so that's one less thing to puzzle out.
I've no idea what your employer is using the radios for, rashly guessing that's a Part90 licensed business system? If it is only using one channel, I think you can buy a clean used "real" radio from Motorola, Kenwood, Icom, etc. that will do a much better job at half the cost of a new radio.
The BaoFeng's present some liability problems for a business, as there are very few that are legal for most uses, even if they are unlikely to be caught. (Corporate types tend to get upset about the odds.) And as noted, there are also real performance differences. The software in those Chinese radios is pretty good, but it can't do the job of the actual hardware bits in the commercial licensed brands.
You could look at that the same way you might look at commercial food handling: What you do in your own kitchen, at hand, just isn't going to be accepted in the food service industry. The reasons aren't always obvious but they should be considered.
If that's all old news..."nevermind". It is just something that needs to be considered, if the business is going to start telling people to supply radios for anything more than casual personal listening. The lack of any real "factory" support on most of the imported radios is just the tip of the iceburg.
And, many of the vendors of clean used commercial radios will include programming, to match the business license terms or yours, so that's one less thing to puzzle out.
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I just checked the FCC, Miklor and Baofeng's own website and see no Part 90 certification for the Baofeng BF-F8HP. I doubt it is certified for Part 90 since the radio manual indicates there is a VFO function.
My advice to new owners of these radios who are trying to use them for work. Get your money back and buy a good used radio made by one of the more reputable LMR radio manufacturers.
My advice to new owners of these radios who are trying to use them for work. Get your money back and buy a good used radio made by one of the more reputable LMR radio manufacturers.
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A a couple of thoughts on this particular thread. First off all, I think the OP is reading the frequency code wrong. Looking through the manual of the Motorola CLS radio (pdf link provided by the OP earlier in the thread), the frequency code listed next to the channel number only has one value (refer to page 25 of the manual). I believe what the OP has been reading as Frequency=5, Code=1, is actually just a code of 51. Looking at the manual again on page 48, it lists the Digital Interference Eliminator code of 51 as 073, which on the Baofeng would be R-DCS and T-DCS in the menu and setting them both to D073.
Secondly, a couple of people were questioning the F8 as being part 90 compliant. It is not. However, the Baofeng UV-82C is Part 90 certified and can be used for commercial purposes but uses the same programming software/cable as other Baofeng radios.
Secondly, a couple of people were questioning the F8 as being part 90 compliant. It is not. However, the Baofeng UV-82C is Part 90 certified and can be used for commercial purposes but uses the same programming software/cable as other Baofeng radios.
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