new (Unknown)to me TS's on Bham TRS

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new (Unknown)to me TG's on Bham TRS

anyone in the bham area heard these yet.. have logged them in past 2-3 weeks 37072 & 38800.
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Bham TRS Unknowns

Here's what I have on the TGID's in your list. The ? indicates that I have not confirmed nor seen anything that confirms the user:
9105 - Board of Education - Supervisors ?
22800 - Police Mutual Aid - ALL CALL (confirmed in RR database)
23184 - County Radio Shop ?
36300 - Bessemer PD ?
37072 - Bessemer PD ? or MAXX ?
51376 - Birmingham PD - East Precinct ?
I've got a list of all the TGID's I've heard or that RR database has confirmed and the ?'s are within the range of TGID's for those agencies.
 

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according to the map the location is in the west prec.

just out of currosity do yall have the status bit enabled on the scanner i frmb reading some where that if status bit is enabled it will cause funny talk groups and everything in the database is current i taled to the db admin as he enterd them
 

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OK, to answer some ?? :
9105 I have 9232 as BOE BUS SUPR.. I believe 9105 was list in RR DB until someone 1 changed it ?
DB now.. was at 1 time

51376- here are RIDS' that may help ID this 024,135,124 & 253

also more "new" stuff
38800 & 36752
& Medic no status nits turned on that I know of? I have the pro197 & PSR 500
Thankt to everyone thats posted a reply :)
 

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mostly afternoon noon til 6-7 pm. 9105 & 22800very infrequent will not often but when atcive can be for a few hours or a few minutes.. I know aths not much hhelp but thanks to all that are trying. I may add I am South highlands ( South Precint)
 
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recap of old & here are afew more I have caught

I suggest people that have the capability to enable a "wildcard" & see what they can catch. Also I would appreciate any & all info on Status bits// how thy are calculated & whether the TG's on the bham are in multiples of 16 or 32 ,or both if that is even possible?:
9105 boe bussses?
22800 PMA all call ( statenet patch)???
23184
33776
36400 ( another mistyped 1) Morris PD Tac?
36577
36688
37072
38800
51376
 
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37072 appears to be red mountain park off lakeshore drive heard talk about the zip line (p-25 digital)

as for status bit


Type II Smartnet systems uses status bits for special transmissions such as Emergency, Patches, DES/DVP scrambled transmissions, and Multiselects on Motorola Trunking systems. Motorola Trunking radios directly interpret them for their special functions, thus no difference is noticed by the person with the radio. The Trunktracker scanners however interpret these special talkgroup status bits as different talkgroups entirely. To the Bottom is the conversion chart for these special status bits.
Therefore, if a user was transmitting a multi-select call on talkgroup 1808, the trunktracker would actually receive those transmissions on 1815. Some common uses of these status bits are as follows:
When a user hits their emergency button, all conversations on the talkgroup revert to the emergency status talkgroup (ID+2) until the dispatch clears the emergency status. Therefore, if someone hit their emergency button and their radio was on talkgroup 16, all communications would switch to talkgroup 18.
A lot of Fire and EMS departments dispatch tone-outs and alarms as Multi-select communications (ID+7). Therefore, if your fire department dispatch talkgroup is 1616, and they do dispatch tone-outs and alarms as Multi-selects, then those communications will be on talkgroup 1623.
This can be a problem, because you will miss communications if you don't have those talkgroups programmed. By setting the Type II block you are monitoring with a fleetmap of S-1 (Mot Size A), you'll essentially get Type I subfleets for each Type II talkgroup - encompassing all of the status bits into one subfleet. Some scanners also allow you to disable the status bit information so that you will alwys see the ID+0 regardless of the status of the talkgroup.
SmartNet systems also added a scanning feature, called "Priority Monitor," which permitted priority scanning of talkgroups. The subscriber radio has the choice of selecting two priority talkgroups (one high and one low priority in addition to eight non-priority talkgroups). When the radio is in the middle of a voice call it is continually receiving sub-audible data on the voice channel indicating the talkgroup activity on the other channels of the system. If a talkgroup id pops up which is seen as a higher priority to the active call the radio will switch back to the control channel to look for the late entry data word indicating which channel to tune to.


Status Bits
Dec ID + # Usage
ID+0 Normal Talkgroup
ID+1 All Talkgroup
ID+2 Emergency
ID+3 Talkgroup patch to another
ID+4 Emergency Patch
ID+5 Emergency multi-group
ID+6 Not assigned
ID+7 Multi-select (initiated by dispatcher)
ID+8 DES Encryption talkgroup
ID+9 DES All Talkgroup
ID+10 DES Emergency
ID+11 DES Talkgroup patch
ID+12 DES Emergency Patch
ID+13 DES Emergency multi-group
ID+14 Not assigned
ID+15 Multi-select DES TG
 

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stus bits

I hav went thru the folloeing Tg's & they are ALL multiples of 16



9104
22800
23184
33776
36400
36688
36752
37072
38800
51376
in others the should be regular Talk groups.... unless I messed up my long division :)
 

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Unknown Bham TRS TGID

I have in my listing of Jeff Co/B ham TRS TGID's the following agencies/users:

9104 - Birmingham Board Of Education - (unknown use)*
22800 - Police Mutual Aid ALL CALL 1 (County wide Mutual Aid)
23148 - Jeff Co Radio Shop 2 (unconfirmed agency)
33776 - Graysville Fire Dispatch
36400 - Bessemer Fire Tac
36688 - Bessemer Police 2 - Tac
36752 - Bessemer Police 4
37072 - Red Mountain Park (new user and unconfirmed)
38800 - UNKNOWN agency
51376 - Birmingham Police - unknown use*
* indicates that these TGID's fall within the range of TGID's for those agencies.
 

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i can confirm the following
37072 red mountain park p-25
33776 graysville fire p-25

36888 is a bessemer pd tac p25
36752 is a bessemeer pd tac p-25

can anybody confirm 22800 for sure yet because doing the math this is what i get
22800 unconfirmed county all call
22832
22864
22896 pma 1
22928 pma 2
22960 pma 3
22992 pma 4

still trying to do the math for bessemer fire
 
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1st of a l BIG thans to medic & scanrman for all the help
So if I hasv eit figured right
we have the left to identify
23841
38768
51504?
Thanks guys!!!
 

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Bham TRS Unknowns

I have 51504 as a Bham PD Undercover TGID. That isn't confirmed, just what I have in my file. 38768 is unknown unless it is assigned to Jeff Co Housing Authority. 23841 is not a good TGID number. It probably should be 23840. I don't have any agencies assigned to TGID's in that range. May be a new Agency just coming on line with the Bham/JeffCo system.
 
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