Figuring out which TG is for which area will take a bit of foot work. You wil need to see a unit at a call then watch for him to use the radio and try and match what TG became active. This is a lot harder now because of heavy MPS use. Another helper will be capturing the RIDs with a good enough library you might be able to match a RID during a patched call.
Waterloo Regional P25 System
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If they're using P25 Phase 1, just monitor the inputs for local traffic.
I did some monitoring of this system today and 3001, 3002, 3003 are clearly the 1/2/3 division dispatch channels. No clue which is which though. In the span of an hour or so I logged maybe a dozen PD talkgroups, give or take. And saw at least 7 different AES keys in use (they sure went nuts with the encryption!). Only heard a few fire calls but IMO it sounded really really good. I believe everything I saw was Phase 2.
Yes, all AES as expected. Originally I thought the spec called for the entire system to be enc... glad to see fire is at least in the clear. Hopefully stays that way.
Even if Transit Enforcement stays in the clear, we will still get a good idea of what's going on. Would if be safe to say that:
3001 - 1 Division
3002 - 2 Division
3003 - 3 Division
3001 - 1 Division
3002 - 2 Division
3003 - 3 Division
Good a guess as any!
Question what is Township Paging DEC: 1079 used for and is it in use?
When I listen on Township Paging DEC: 1079, nothing comes over. I only hear Township activity over Regional Fire Dispatch DEC: 1000.
Do they have a digital paging setup on their old Frequency 154.010?
Do they have a digital paging setup on their old Frequency 154.010?
You're likely in the best position to figure that out... I don't think many others in this thread are in the immediate area.
Okay. so when using ID Search instead of ID scan I hear more talk groups
Airport?
ID / DEC: 5805
Airport?
ID / DEC: 5805
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Ok, also I am using a Uniden BCD996P2.
Ok, so when setting the scanner on the old Twp Paging Frequency 154.010 it detects NAC: 971 not sure what that would be for?
I don't think they are using two-tone paging anymore, but haven't heard anything on that channel for page-outs or two-tone. I mainly hear them using Regional Fire Dispatch DEC:1000 for Township Fire.
When they were still using the old system back in the summer, Elmira did a pager test like they usually do every Saturday around noon or shortly after noon. When they requested a pager test for the last time with the old analog system (154.010) after the regular pager test they said "Elmira firefighters standby for a test of the G5 pagers" I heard tones go out for that.
I don't hear any two-tone paging now with this P25 system still trying to find the paging channel/frequency but I think they may be using Unication digital address paging when they call a dept on DEC:1000 there is another ID underneath the main ID. It is different for every dept.
Like today, I watched Elmira's pager test and for Elmira, for fire it showed ID: 1705 under DEC:1000 and for Elmira Medical it showed ID: 1706 under DEC:1000.
When they were still using the old system back in the summer, Elmira did a pager test like they usually do every Saturday around noon or shortly after noon. When they requested a pager test for the last time with the old analog system (154.010) after the regular pager test they said "Elmira firefighters standby for a test of the G5 pagers" I heard tones go out for that.
I don't hear any two-tone paging now with this P25 system still trying to find the paging channel/frequency but I think they may be using Unication digital address paging when they call a dept on DEC:1000 there is another ID underneath the main ID. It is different for every dept.
Like today, I watched Elmira's pager test and for Elmira, for fire it showed ID: 1705 under DEC:1000 and for Elmira Medical it showed ID: 1706 under DEC:1000.
