I listen to this new system frequently and have never heard activity on 1079. That TG was put into the database at the same time some other inaccurate talkgroups were added (ie there are no fire station specific talkgroups TMK), so not sure if 1079 is reliable. Rely on TG1000.
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Good info, thanks for sharing that!
Yeah no activity on DEC: 1079 I'd say DEC: 1000 is the Township Fire Dispatch.
I have my Uniden BCD996P2 set up like a fire pager so when there is activity on for example Maryhill Fire: 1709 the scanner alerts when there is activity on that specific TGID.
Another example would be St. Jacobs Fire: 1711 and for St. Jacobs Medical: 1712. These TGID's are only active for calls/pager tests. Also, the Dispatch 2 channels for Kitchener Fire Department, Waterloo Fire Rescue, Cambridge Fire Department are back up dispatch channels.
I have my Uniden BCD996P2 set up like a fire pager so when there is activity on for example Maryhill Fire: 1709 the scanner alerts when there is activity on that specific TGID.
Another example would be St. Jacobs Fire: 1711 and for St. Jacobs Medical: 1712. These TGID's are only active for calls/pager tests. Also, the Dispatch 2 channels for Kitchener Fire Department, Waterloo Fire Rescue, Cambridge Fire Department are back up dispatch channels.
So I did some more listening on Monday and what was supposed to be Cambridge TAC 1, I was hearing Elmira doing training. When Cambridge uses a Fire TAC channel its either one of the Regional Ops channels or TAC channels, not the Cambridge TAC channels.
Not sure that those Cambridge TAC channels are for. Anyone else know what those channels really are?
Not sure that those Cambridge TAC channels are for. Anyone else know what those channels really are?
Referring to TGID 1021 - 1026? I have no idea what those are ... they are not TAC channels and honestly ... I've never heard them, so for TAC channels, they aren't put to good use. There were some similar Kitchener and Waterloo channels that were station specific, which were flawed because they referred to stations that didn't exist (like Waterloo Stn. 6). They've been removed because I don't think they were were proven.
AFIK, all Regional Fire Services share the TAC (1-5), OPS aka Fireground (1-5), and training (1-5) channels. Dispatch will assign a call to an appropriate channel. It's not uncommon to hear the Township services ask Dispatch for a Training channel to use. All up to Dispatch's discretion. I'm not quite sure if their is any rhyme or reason as to the use of Fireground vs TAC channels. They seem to use both routinely and interchangeably.
Ok, thanks for that info.
Can I list all the paging TGID's for the townships? I wrote a Spreadsheet of which TGID is which and what it alerts for.
Yes absolutely! It can then be added to the database or wiki as needed.
As for whether or not FD will encrypt... My personal thought is that if they were going to, they would have right from the get go. But who knows that the future holds, especially if they don't like people streaming their traffic.
As for whether or not FD will encrypt... My personal thought is that if they were going to, they would have right from the get go. But who knows that the future holds, especially if they don't like people streaming their traffic.
The township FD's Pager TGID's these ID's are only active when they are testing pagers or there is a call for an FD.
| Township Dispatch/Paging is on TGID/DEC: 1000 | |||
| Entry No. | Paging TGID | Fire Dept | Pager Alert Type |
| 1 | 1401 | Ayr | Fire |
| 2 | 1501 | Linwood | Fire |
| 3 | 1502 | Linwood | Medical |
| 4 | 1503 | Linwood | Officer |
| 5 | 1504 | St.Clements | Fire |
| 6 | 1505 | St.Clements | Medical |
| 7 | 1506 | St. Clements | Officer |
| 8 | 1507 | Wellesley | Fire |
| 9 | 1508 | Wellesley | Medical |
| 10 | 1509 | Wellesley | Officer |
| 11 | 1601 | Baden | Fire |
| 12 | 1602 | Baden | Medical |
| 13 | 1603 | New Dundee | Fire |
| 14 | 1604 | New Dundee | Medical |
| 15 | 1605 | New Hamburg | Fire |
| 16 | 1606 | New Hamburg | Medical |
| 17 | 1701 | Breslau | Fire |
| 18 | 1704 | Conestogo | Medical |
| 19 | 1703 | Conestogo | Fire |
| 20 | 1705 | Elmira | Fire |
| 21 | 1706 | Elmira | Medical |
| 22 | 1707 | Floradale | Fire |
| 23 | 1708 | Floradale | Medical |
| 24 | 1709 | Maryhill | Fire |
| 25 | 1710 | Maryhill | Medical |
| 26 | 1711 | St.Jacobs | Fire |
| 27 | 1712 | St.Jacobs | Medical |
I totally agree with you. If it hasn't been done by now, it's not going to happen. (Knock on wood).
Great list, thanks for sharing that!
No problem! :-D
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Seen a new talkgroup come through this evening very active, TG3607 with theese unit id's 3516005, 3516004, 3516010
I believe I ran into that TGID: 3607 it's encrypted so it must be Waterloo regional police.
I thought WRPS was all 30xx and not 36xx range? Maybe it's the court officers or GRT Enforcement?
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Correct It was encrypted, I did hear on Transit side giving a description of someone, maybe it was Transit Enforcement like Air11 said.
When do you find them commonly testing your pagers? If I recall, it used to be Monday evenings. I haven't logged these talkgroups yet on DSD+ but I'm clearly not monitoring at the right times.
Usually, I hear them start testing around 6:30 or 6:40 and go on to 7 pm on Monday. Also, Elmira will come on Saturday close to Noon usually...
Here's what it looks like when they are doing testing of township pagers on a Monday night.
I just put one of the many stations that did pager testing as an example.
Both fire and medical are tested.
I just put one of the many stations that did pager testing as an example.
Both fire and medical are tested.
