New XPR 7550e Roger beep?

[Beowolfs]

New Motorola User.
I was recently authorized to purchase CPS 2.0 from Motorola. After some instructional videos, I managed to program all the frequencies (Channels) I required.
Alas, I've been unsuccessful in finding the location (Within the software), which adds an audible tone to the transmission when the PTT switch is released.

 

[clbsquared]

These aren't CB's. The "roger beep" you speak of is usually associated with MDC and is meant to send data (radio ID, etc.) at the beginning or ending of the transmission. Unless you have a need for such data to be sent, the "roger beep" is just an annoying noise at the end of you TX that people will grow to dislike.

There is also a TPT (Talk Permit Tone) which signals the user when the channel is clear to talk on.

 

[Beowolfs]

These aren't CB's. The "roger beep" you speak of is usually associated with MDC and is meant to send data (radio ID, etc.) at the beginning or ending of the transmission. Unless you have a need for such data to be sent, the "roger beep" is just an annoying noise at the end of you TX that people will grow to dislike.

There is also a TPT (Talk Permit Tone) which signals the user when the channel is clear to talk on.

Thanks for the quick response.

As a ham radio user, I've never had the necessity for an "End of transmission tone". However, there's a particular repeater where almost all its members are using it. If that's the norm there, I dont mind enabling that feature for that channel.

Last night I was told CPS has an option to enable the tone or MDC to be used specifically on a particular channel.
Inside the Zone1 analog folder under "TX:Signaling System", I've selected to use "MDCSystyems/Sys1"for the channel in question. Unfortunately, that didn't enable the transmission of the MDC.

 

[RIVER_5]

Last night I was told CPS has an option to enable the tone or MDC to be used specifically on a particular channel.
Inside the Zone1 analog folder under "TX:Signaling System", I've selected to use "MDCSystyems/Sys1"for the channel in question. Unfortunately, that didn't enable the transmission of the MDC.

Under the Signaling Systems folder > MDC > MDC Profiles will be under there. You must set up your profile to either send the MDC Burst at the beginning of transmission, end of transmission, or both at the beginning and end.

Here is what it looks like on CPS 16.0

 

[Beowolfs]

Under the Signaling Systems folder > MDC > MDC Profiles will be under there. You must set up your profile to either send the MDC Burst at the beginning of transmission, end of transmission, or both at the beginning and end.

Here is what it looks like on CPS 16.0

That did it! It looks a bit different on CPS 2.0, but thanks to the screen prints you posted, I was able to find it.
Thank you for that.

Now the only thing left to figure out is how to enable the emergency button for the radio to emit a loud tone through its speaker.
I do a lot of hiking, that might come in handy.
It's already selected under the Control Buttons folder. Depressing the Orange button does nothing.

 

[a417]

As a ham radio user, I've never had the necessity for an "End of transmission tone". However, there's a particular repeater where almost all its members are using it. If that's the norm there, I dont mind enabling that feature for that channel.

You should ask them "why?" If there's no specific requirement for something like that, I am personally against "keeping up with the joneses" regarding what amounts to noise.

 

[Beowolfs]

You should ask them "why?" If there's no specific requirement for something like that, I am personally against "keeping up with the joneses" regarding what amounts to noise.

I understand the sentiment.
Apparently the guy who owns the repeater has an affinity for them tone/s. As to why?? Not really that interested in asking.

 

[sallen07]

As a ham radio user, I've never had the necessity for an "End of transmission tone". However, there's a particular repeater where almost all its members are using it. If that's the norm there, I dont mind enabling that feature for that channel.

Are you sure it's not a courtesy tone on that particular repeater?

 

[jruta]

Are you sure it's not a courtesy tone on that particular repeater?

Exactly what I’m thinking.

 

[mbnv992]

Are you sure it's not a courtesy tone on that particular repeater?

This. All the GMRS repeaters in my local area have this. The few that have the “roger beep” AND the repeaters courtesy tone beep gets real annoying really fast. Hell - there was even a user that had MDC turned on 😡😡😡

 

[jruta]

There used to be a feature called “single tone” on older radios, I’m not sure that’s the case anymore but if it could be set to end-of-transmission (and I’m not sure that was an option) that would work better, as it’s not a data burst.

 

[jruta]

This. All the GMRS repeaters in my local area have this. The few that have the “roger beep” AND the repeaters courtesy tone beep gets real annoying really fast. Hell - there was even a user that had MDC turned on 😡😡😡

Lol all they need is some preamble, end of transmission MDC and MODAT.

“Kerchunkin’ a repeater? Hold my beer! LOL

 

[mbnv992]

Lol all they need is some preamble, end of transmission MDC and MODAT.

“Kerchunkin’ a repeater? Hold my beer! LOL

I actually have an old Astro Saber with Modat that I use on MURS just to be annoying hahahaha
Would never use MDC or Modat on a repeater with other users though. That’s a good way to NOT make new friends lol

 

[Beowolfs]

I'ts not the courtesy tone. When I ask, they tell me it's their Motorola, Kenwood, or Wouxun radio doing so.
I'm not a new ham, only new to GMRS radios.

 

[jruta]

I'ts not the courtesy tone. When I ask, they tell me it's their Motorola, Kenwood, or Wouxun radio doing so.
I'm not a new ham, only new to GMRS radios.

thing is, you can’t put Moto or Kenwood in the same class/category as wouxun or any other junk like it. There is no “roger beep” or courtesy tones on Moto, MDC bursts? Yes, but that’s not what they sound like. Refer to my post about “single tone signaling” by Moto, I think that’s as close as you’ll find. Others will correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Beowolfs]

thing is, you can’t put Moto or Kenwood in the same class/category as wouxun or any other junk like it. There is no “roger beep” or courtesy tones on Moto, MDC bursts? Yes, but that’s not what they sound like. Refer to my post about “single tone signaling” by Moto, I think that’s as close as you’ll find. Others will correct me if I’m wrong.

You are correct, they are using the MDC tone.
I didn't know what that was prior to yesterday. Now that I've purchased Motorola I'll begin to learn more about them.

BTW,
Perhaps some of the other tones I'm hearing are Kenwood radio MDC tones? Do they sound different? Either way, I've learned something new thanks to this forum.

Thank you all for your help.

 

[a417]

You are correct, they are using the MDC tone.
I didn't know what that was prior to yesterday. Now that I've purchased Motorola I'll begin to learn more about them.

BTW,
Perhaps some of the other tones I'm hearing are Kenwood radio MDC tones? Do they sound different? Either way, I've learned something new thanks to this forum.

Thank you all for your help.

Not all radios send MDC like motorola (or some other brands that support moto MDC). Kenwood, for instance, has fleetsync which sounds different and holds different data. Kenwood also has certain lines of commercial radios (the x180s) that can be flashed with a special firmware that allows them to encode/decode MDC.

There are many online resources, this one in particular, that have information about the various signaling methods used in RF.

[edited for ****e spelling]

 

[K2NEC]

Even Harris and Icom can send MDC. It's not exclusive to Motorola.