New year resolution: time to verify your area's frequencies

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It's 2022 and time to verify frequencies

The RadioReference database is "crowdsourced" by verifying the frequencies listed - not just slapping FCC license info, but actually listening and verifying.
Please review frequencies, systems, and talkgroups in your county and look for changes - PL/DPL/NACs not listed, frequencies used but not listed, frequencies no longer used, etc. Especially interested in the 400MHz freqs in NWAR that may be gone/deprecated due to the area joining AWIN.

If there are verified changes, please submit!

Questions? Let me know - I'm happy to help.

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I would still like to see the names of the AWIN sites updated to match the AWIN system nomenclature that they're using now - where it is "A10 Lonoke" or "B24 Batesville" or whatever. It would really be nice if it was a column that is sortable on the db page for AWIN but it doesn't look like the site name column is (unless it could be set where it could be sorted ascending of descending). That would make it nice for folks who just want to program in the sites that AWIN associates with a particular ASP troop (thus the lettering). I think someone submitted this list a few months ago and the response was no, though the guidelines for db info state using the official system's listings so maybe it can happen eventually.
 

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I would still like to see the names of the AWIN sites updated to match the AWIN system nomenclature that they're using now - where it is "A10 Lonoke" or "B24 Batesville" or whatever. It would really be nice if it was a column that is sortable on the db page for AWIN but it doesn't look like the site name column is (unless it could be set where it could be sorted ascending of descending). That would make it nice for folks who just want to program in the sites that AWIN associates with a particular ASP troop (thus the lettering). I think someone submitted this list a few months ago and the response was no, though the guidelines for db info state using the official system's listings so maybe it can happen eventually.

Might have been me.

I noticed they half-a$$ed the naming convention after my submission.

Oh well, not my sandbox so I no longer play along…..just comment occasionally.

I build Excel spreadsheets & import my programming into the software. I rename alpha tags to suit me since the DB is pretty inconsistent.
 

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Might have been me.

I noticed they half-a$$ed the naming convention after my submission.

Oh well, not my sandbox so I no longer play along…..just comment occasionally.

I build Excel spreadsheets & import my programming into the software. I rename alpha tags to suit me since the DB is pretty inconsistent.

Yeah, pretty disappointing it doesn’t match the actual names since accuracy is or should be the goal here.
 

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It’s just a hobby….I do it for fun & enjoyment not to make another man a dollar. I could care less what they name the sites. All I worry about is what’s in my radio.
 

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Crowdsourcing, which is a pillar of this site, is a good thing. We should all share info so each other has accurate info. If it weren’t for crowdsourcing then there’d be no database here and it would be a nightmare to monitor systems.

Despite sometimes being frustrated at decisions made, I’m thankful this site exists and will continue to support it by sharing database updates and information in the forums. Keeping it to myself would be selfish and that’s not an attitude I want to exude.
 

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How long does a frequency need to be inactive before it should be considered 'deprecated'? I have not heard a peep in fifteen years of scanning on the old lowband law frequencies of 37.240, 37.200 or 37.100 MHz. I briefly heard some activity in Independence County back in 2006 on 37.100 but since then, zilch. However, looking in the FCC records, I can tell that the state and many counties continue to hold active licenses on most if not all three of those frequencies. In the RRDB they are listed as "Statewide Sheriffs Net" so are included as Law Dispatch for every county... and if your scanner is using its GPS settings and full database in Arkansas, it will hang on those lowband frequencies with bleedover from telemetry at every filling station and highway construction zone.
 

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How long does a frequency need to be inactive before it should be considered 'deprecated'? I have not heard a peep in fifteen years of scanning on the old lowband law frequencies of 37.240, 37.200 or 37.100 MHz. I briefly heard some activity in Independence County back in 2006 on 37.100 but since then, zilch. However, looking in the FCC records, I can tell that the state and many counties continue to hold active licenses on most if not all three of those frequencies. In the RRDB they are listed as "Statewide Sheriffs Net" so are included as Law Dispatch for every county... and if your scanner is using its GPS settings and full database in Arkansas, it will hang on those lowband frequencies with bleedover from telemetry at every filling station and highway construction zone.

Back then, a few of the units still had lowband radios in them and they used them as car-to-car. No more.

I do not know if dispatch centers have radios "over the in corner" or something as a just-in-case type thing or what. Like you, haven't heard a peep on them in over a decade. I know the patrol units here don't have radios capable of them. I tend to think they are just hold overs on the licenses and when it's time to renew they just renew them all.

I agree - using the GPS function is awfully handy but definitely has its drawbacks with this being one.
 

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If no one has heard a peep in15 years I'd say it needs to be removed. You're right, often licenses get renewed "just in case."
"Deprecated" in RR is designed to be a "temporary" listing that will be deleted in a while.
It's worth asking if anyone has heard the lo band freqs in use.
 

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If no one has heard a peep in15 years I'd say it needs to be removed. You're right, often licenses get renewed "just in case."
"Deprecated" in RR is designed to be a "temporary" listing that will be deleted in a while.
It's worth asking if anyone has heard the lo band freqs in use.
Thanks, wbloss. The only thing low band I ever hear anymore is Mt. Nebo State Park on 46.56 MHz... and frankly I'm shocked they haven't moved to an AWIN talk group. I think it's time to say goodbye to the 37 MHz frequencies. I'm sure they were hot for the decades of the late 20th century, but today they are simply no longer in use, regardless of the level of emergency.
 

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All the SO 37 MHz is gone. State Parks still has a few of the 46 MHz radios, but most of the Park Rangers/Police are AWIN now. As for the Deprecated is set to auto delete on the 30 day sweeps. Or was last I knew.
 

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Using this info I have delete statewide the 37 MHz freqs! There are a few local uses of 37.1 that may be active that I have not deleted until someone can verify: Local uses of 37.1
 

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Using this info I have delete statewide the 37 MHz freqs! There are a few local uses of 37.1 that may be active that I have not deleted until someone can verify: Local uses of 37.1

Thanks! That will help the GPS scanning crowd!

Now if we could just get folks in areas where DMR or other digital modes are now in use to submit updates so that they can be changed to the correct mode that'd be great - on one trip several months ago I decided to scan the full db with the GPS attached to my 536 and I lost track of how many times it would stop on a frequency and I would hear the DMR motorboat sound instead of the actual decoded audio. I could only assume they were in the db as NFM instead of DMR. Being alone at the time and driving, I wasn't able to make a note of them or try to switch to DMR and capture CC, TG, etc.
 
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