New York Forest Rangers

[DaveNF2G]

Here's what I found during the search (which terminated when the man was found and airlifted out by NYSP helicopter).

Channel 2 151.280/CSQ used by NYSP helo to contact LZ

Channel 5/8/12 (can somebody explain this?) 159.435/131,8 Gore Mountain repeater

Channel 6 159.435/82.5 Mount Colfax repeater

Channel 14? 159.435/71.9 active, weak, only heard base. She was having a 2-way conversation with the Ranger at the LZ, but he was not heard via this PL.

159.225/94.8 Mount Colfax repeater
159.330/94.8 also active but not related to SAR incident

 

[MB]

Here in Region 5 (Adirondacks) the trucks are no longer red, they are dark green Chevy Silverado 4X4 extended cab pickups.

Forest Rangers - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Rangers perform all sorts of tasks, from firefighting, rescue, enforcement and education.

In the Adirondack Park, most of the Ranger's trucks are full-size red 4x4 pickups with fire fighting skid rigs in the bed. (Unable to find a pic on the net at the moment.)

 

[MB]

Dave, Nice list..

The only thing I can think of is that they may have instructed Rangers that were responding from outside the area that were helping with the search to use either channels 5, 8 or 12 becuase they all use the same repeater input frequnecy and PL tone that will access the Gore Mountain repeater.

Here's what I found during the search (which terminated when the man was found and airlifted out by NYSP helicopter).

Channel 2 151.280/CSQ used by NYSP helo to contact LZ

Channel 5/8/12 (can somebody explain this?) 159.435/131,8 Gore Mountain repeater

Channel 6 159.435/82.5 Mount Colfax repeater

Channel 14? 159.435/71.9 active, weak, only heard base. She was having a 2-way conversation with the Ranger at the LZ, but he was not heard via this PL.

159.225/94.8 Mount Colfax repeater
159.330/94.8 also active but not related to SAR incident

 

[philb623]

Dave:
Here is what I can determine.
Channel 5-Gore, 8-Blue, 12-White Face, Per MB's post all use the same PL
Channel 14 - Buck Tower located in Rensselaer County used by Region 4 Rangers

159.225 - Region 5's Encon Officers Frequency
159.330 - Region 4's Encon Officers Frequency which includes the Capital District and Northern Catskills

 

[DaveNF2G]

Thanks. I thought it might be something like that. Does anyone have the input tones that distinguish the channels?

 

[gralston73]

Here in Queensbury, I an picking up 159.225 with a PL of 118.8. Haven't been able to nail down who it is yet. Traffic heard was law enforcement with MDC1200 data bursts. Is the DEC using MDC1200 now?

 

[SCPD]

-------------------------------------ch#----b/w--------RX----------------------------TX-------------------use/tower

NYS FOREST RANGERS 1 W 151.2200 CSQ 151.2200 0.0 SIMPLEX
NYS FOREST RANGERS 2 W 151.2800 CSQ 151.2800 0.0 SIMPLEX
NYS FOREST RANGERS 3 W 151.2500 CSQ 151.2500 0.0 SIMPLEX
NYS FOREST RANGERS 4 W 151.2650 CSQ 151.2650 0.0 SIMPLEX
NYS FOREST RANGERS 5 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 127.3 GORE MNTN
NYS FOREST RANGERS 6 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 141.3 COLFAX/WOODHULL/INGRAHAM
NYS FOREST RANGERS 7 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 103.5 PETERSBURG/MCCARTHY
NYS FOREST RANGERS 8 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 123.0 STATEN ISLAND/BLUE MNTN/SUGAR
NYS FOREST RANGERS 9 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 136.5 SHANDELEE/PILLSBURY MNTN/MT. MONROE
NYS FOREST RANGERS 10 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2200 114.8 SAMS POINT/GEORGETOWN
NYS FOREST RANGERS 11 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 127.3 NAPEAQUE/STARR HILL
NYS FOREST RANGERS 12 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 141.3 WHITEFACE/UTSAYANTHA/CALL
NYS FOREST RANGERS 13 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 103.5 SELDEN/WHITES HILL/BERRY/CHAUTAUQUA
NYS FOREST RANGERS 14 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 123.0 BUCK/GOMER HILL
NYS FOREST RANGERS 15 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 136.5 PANTHER/WORDEN
NYS FOREST RANGERS 16 W 159.4350 CSQ 151.2800 114.8 NINHAM/DRY


Repeater input PL & frequency is different from output. Repeater outputs seem to be by Region. Region 5 131.8?? Region 6 - 100.0 etc

 

[mike4164]

Does anyone have frequencies with PL.'s for the Orange & Sullivan county area's for the forest rangers and the use of the channels?????

 

[MegaHertz315]

Inputs

These are inputs that I have confirmed. But please note, PLs do change from time to time and some of this information may need to be updated this Spring/Summer.

151.2200 (114.8 PL) input to 159.4350 (CSQ) Curtin Tower, Cayuga County

151.2800 (114.8 PL) input to 159.4350 (127.3) Georgetown Tower, Madison County

151.2800 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4350 (CSQ) Gomer Hill, Lewis County

151.2200 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4350 (254.1) Blue Mountain, Hamilton County

151.2800 (141.3 PL) input to 159.4350 (82.5) Whiteface, Essex County

151.2200 (127.3 PL) input to 159.4350 ( ) Gore, Warren County

151.4300 (94.8 PL) input to 159.4650 Martinsburg Tower, Lewis County

151.4300 (127.3 PL) input to 159.4650 Dry Hill, Jefferson County

151.4300 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4650 Gerogetown Tower, Madison County

151.4300 (162.2 PL) input to 159.4650 Starr Hill, Oneida County

151.4300 (151.4 PL) input to 159.4650 Whites Hill, St. Lawrence County

151.4300 (123.0 PL) input to 159.2250 (94.8) Region 7 (tower??)

151.2500 (123.0 PL) input to 159.3000 (127.3) CNY area

159.3000 (88.5) Georgetown Tower


159.2250 (114.8 PL) Whiteface
151.4300 (114.8 & 136.5 PL) Watertown area

Finding the repeater tones are much easier than finding the inputs!! Anyone else have any??

 

[philb623]

Mike - All Rangers use 159.435 as there primary frequency. The PLs for the towers are listed in several of the other post. The Ulster county feed has both the Ranger frequency of 159.435 & the DEC police frequency of 159.225 that covers DEC Region 3 which Orange & Sullivan Counties are part of.

 

[MB]

Some of these are wrong. See the previous posts in this thread.

Blue, Gore and Whiteface all have a PL of 131.8 now on 159.435.

ENCON Law Enforcement use 159.225 PL 94.8 in all of Region 5 including Whiteface.

These are inputs that I have confirmed. But please note, PLs do change from time to time and some of this information may need to be updated this Spring/Summer.

151.2200 (114.8 PL) input to 159.4350 (CSQ) Curtin Tower, Cayuga County

151.2800 (114.8 PL) input to 159.4350 (127.3) Georgetown Tower, Madison County

151.2800 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4350 (CSQ) Gomer Hill, Lewis County

151.2200 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4350 (254.1) Blue Mountain, Hamilton County

151.2800 (141.3 PL) input to 159.4350 (82.5) Whiteface, Essex County

151.2200 (127.3 PL) input to 159.4350 ( ) Gore, Warren County

151.4300 (94.8 PL) input to 159.4650 Martinsburg Tower, Lewis County

151.4300 (127.3 PL) input to 159.4650 Dry Hill, Jefferson County

151.4300 (123.0 PL) input to 159.4650 Gerogetown Tower, Madison County

151.4300 (162.2 PL) input to 159.4650 Starr Hill, Oneida County

151.4300 (151.4 PL) input to 159.4650 Whites Hill, St. Lawrence County

151.4300 (123.0 PL) input to 159.2250 (94.8) Region 7 (tower??)

151.2500 (123.0 PL) input to 159.3000 (127.3) CNY area

159.3000 (88.5) Georgetown Tower


159.2250 (114.8 PL) Whiteface
151.4300 (114.8 & 136.5 PL) Watertown area

Finding the repeater tones are much easier than finding the inputs!! Anyone else have any??

 

[philb623]

Radio IDs

Here is a list of radio unit numbers that I have been able to put together, This list is not complete and may contain several mistakes. I am looking for any input to complete this list.

New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (Encon)


7N=Conservation Officers (ECOs) BECI=Bureau of Environmental Crimes Investigations
8N=Forest Rangers


Forest Rangers Central Office
8N1-Director
8N2-Col - Asst. Director
8N3-Major - Administrative Officer
8N4-Captain - Training Officer
8N5-Captain - Fire Management Officer

ECOs Central Office
7N1-Director
7N2-Col - Asst Director
7N3-Col - Asst Director
7N_-Major - Northern District
7N_-Major - Southern District
7N_-Major - BECI
7N_-Capt - BECI

Region 1 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Nassau & Suffolk Counties)
7N100 - Captain
7N102 - Lt. - BECI
7N110 - Lt. - Nassau & Western Suffolk Counties
7N120 - Lt. - Central Suffolk County
7N130 - Lt. - Eastern Suffolk County

8N10 - Captain (Regions 1 & 2)

BECI:
7N103, 7N104,

Nassau County & Western Suffolk Counties:
7N111, 7N112, 7N113, 7N114, 7N115, 7N116, 7N117, 7N118
8N119

Suffolk County:
Central: 7N121, 7N122, 7N123, 7N124, 7N125, 7N126
Eastern: 7N131, 7N132, 7N133, 7N134
8N129, 8N139, 8N149

Marine Enforcement Unit
N - Captain
N - Lt.
N - ECO
N - ECO

Region 2 ECOs & Forest Rangers (New york, Bronx, Queens, Kings, & Richmond Counties)
7N200 - Captain
7N202 - Lt. - BECI
7N2_0 - Lt. -
7N2_0 - Lt. -
7N2_0 - Lt. -

8N10 - Captain (Regions 2 & 1)

BECI:
7N203, 7N204, 7N205

New York County (Manhatten)
7N211, 7N212, 7N213

Bronx County:
7N221, 7N222, 7N223, 7N224

Queens County:
7N231, 7N232, 7N233, 7N234

Kings County (Brooklyn)
7N241, 7N242, 7N243, 7N244, 7N245, 7N246

Richmond County (Staten Island)
7N251, 7N252, 7N253
8N259

Marine Enforcement Unit
N - Captain
N - Lt.
N - ECO
N - ECO

Region 3 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Ulster, Sullivan, Dutchess, Orange, Rockland, Putnam & Westchester Counties)
7N300 - Captain
7N302 - Lt. - BECI
7N320 - Lt. - N. Ulster & Sullivan Counties
7N330 - Lt. - S. Ulster & Dutchess Counties
7N350 - Lt. - Orange & Rockland Counties
7N370 - Lt. - Putnam & Westchester Counties

8N30 - Captain
8N31 - Lt. - Ulster & Sullivan Counties
8N32 - Lt. - Dutchess. Orange, Rockland, Putnam & Westchester Counties

BECI:
7N303, 7N304, 7N305

Ulster County:
N: 7N311, 7N312
S: 7N331, 7N332, 7N333
8N

Sullivan County:
7N321, 7N322, 7N323, 7N324
8N

Dutchess County:
7N341, 7N342, 7N343
8N

Orange County:
7N351, 7N352, 7n353
8N

Rockland County:
7N361, 7N362, 7N363
8N

Putnam & Westchester Counties:
7N371, 7N372, 7N373, 7N374, 7N375
8N

Non-Sector ECOs
7N30_, 7N30_

Region 4 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Albany,Columbia,Greene,Montgomery
Rensselaer, Delaware, Otsego, Schenectay & Schoharie Counties)
7N400 - Captain
7N402 - Lt - BECI
7N410 - Lt - Otsego & Schohaire Counties
7N430 - Lt -Albany, Schenectady Counties
7N440 - Lt -Rensselaer & Columbia Counties
7N470 - Lt -Greene & Delaware Counties

8N40 - Captain
8N41 - Lt - Albany, Columbia, Greene, Rensselaer & Schenectady Counties
8N42 - Lt - Delaware, Montgomery, Otsego & Schoharie Counties


BECI:
7N403, 7N404, 7N405

Otsego County
7N411, 7N412, 7N413
8N429

Schohaire & Montgomery Counties
7N421, 7N422, 7N423, 7N424
8N427, 8N428

Albany County
7N431, 7N432, 7N433, 7N434
8N419

Rensselaer County
7N441, 7N442
8N418

Delaware County
7N451, 7N452, 7N453, 7N454
8N447, 8N448, 8N449

Schenectady County
7N461, 7N462
8N419

Greene County
7N471, 7N472, 7N473
8N437, 8N438, 8N439

Columbia County
7N481, 7N482
8N417

Non-sector ECO
7N407

Region 5 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Clinton, Essex, Franklin, Fulton, Hamilton, Saratoga, Warren, Washington Counties)

7N500 - Captain
N15 - Lt. Lake George Park Commission
7N502 - Lt. - BECI
7N530 - Lt. - Vacant
7N540 - Lt .- Clinton, Franklin, N. Essex Counties
7N550 - Lt. - S. Essex, Hamilton, Fulton, Warren Counties
7N5100-Lt. - Saratoga & Washington Counties

8N50 - Captain
8N51 - Lt - Clinton, Franklin & Essex Counties
8N52 - Vacant
8N53 - Lt - Essex, Franklin & Hamilton Counties
8N54 - Lt - Essex & Franklin Counties
8N55 - Lt - S. Essex & Warren Counties
8N56 - Lt - Saratoga & Washington Counties
8N57 - Lt - Fulton & S. Hamilton Counties

BECI:
7N503, 7N504, 7N505, 7N506

Franklin County:
Northern Franklin 7N511, 7N512
Southern Franklin 7N531, 7N532
8N515, 8N516, 8N517
8N537, 8N538, 8N539

Clinton County
7N521, 7N522, 7N523
8N518, 8N519

Essex County:
NW Essex: 7N531, 7N532
NE Essex: 7N541, 7N542
Southern: 7N561, 7N562
NW Essex: 8N544, 8N545, 8N546, 8N547, 8N548, 8N549
NE Essex: 8N527, 8N528, 8N529
Southern: 8N558, 8N559

Hamilton:
Northern Hamilton: 7N551, 7N552, 7N553
Southern Hamilton: 7N571, 7N572
Northern Hamilton: 8N574, 8N757, 8N576
Southern Hamilton: 8N577, 8N578, 8N579

Warren County:
7N581, 7N582, 7N583
8N555, 8N556, 8N557, 8N564

Fulton County:
7N591, 7N592
8N587, 8N588, 8N589

Saratoga County:
7N5101, 7N5102, 7N5103, 7N5104
8N565, 8N566

Washinton County:
7N5111, 7N5112, 7N5113
8N567, 8N568, 8N569

Non-sector ECOs
7N507, 7N508, 7N509

REGION 6 ECOs & Forest Rangers (St Lawrence, Jefferson, Lewis, Herkimer & Onedia Counties)
7N600 - Captain
7N602 - Lt. BECI
7N620 - Lt. - St. Lawrence County
7N6_0 - Lt. - Jefferson & N. Lewis County
7N670 - Lt. - S. Lewis, NE Oneida & N. Herkimer Counties
7N690 - Lt. - Oneida & S. Herkimer Counties

8N60 - Captain
8N61 - Lt. - St. Lawrence County
8N62 - Lt. - Jefferson, N. Lewis & N. Herkimer Counties
8N63 - Lt. - Oneida & S. Herkimer Counties

BECI:
7N603, 7N604, 7N605

St. Lawrence County
NE - 7N611, 7N612, 7N613
SW - 7N621, 7N622, 7N623
SE - 7N631, 7N632, 7N633

N: 8N617, 8N618, 8N619
S: 8N627, 8N628, 8N629

Lewis:
North: 7N641, 7N642
South: 7N661, 7N662, 7N663
North: 8N637, 8N638, 8N639
South: 8N646, 8N647, 8N648, 8N649

Jefferson County:
7N651, 7N652, 7N653
8N637, 8N638, 8N639

Herkimer County:
N: 7N671, 7N672, 7N673
S: 7N691, 7N692, 7N693
N: 8N647, 8N648, 8N649
S: 8N667

Oneida County:
7N681, 7N682, 7N683
8N668, 8N669

Non-Sector ECOs
7N60_, 7N60_

Region 7 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Oswego, Cayuga, Onondaga, Madison, Tompkins, Cortland, Chenango, Broome & Tioga Counties)
7N700 - Captain
7N702 - Lt. BECI
7N710 - Lt. Oswego County
7N720 - Lt. Onondaga & Cayuga Counties
7N750 - Lt. Tompkins, Broome & Tioga Counties
7N760 - Lt. Madison, Cortland & Chenango Counties

8N70 - Captain
8N71 - Lt. - All Counties

BECI:
7N703, 7N704, 7N705

Oswego:
7N711, 7N712, 7N713, 7N714, 7N715
8N719

Cayuga County:
7N721, 7N722
8N729

Onondaga County:
7N731, 7N732, 7N733
8N719

Madison County:
7N741, 7N742
8N749

Tompkins County:
7N751, 7N752
8N

Cortland County:
7N761, 7N762
8N

Chenango County
7N771, 7N772
8N

Broome County:
7N781
8N

Tioga County:
7N791
8N

Non-Sector ECOs
7N70_, 7N70_

Region 8 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Orleans, Genesse, Monroe, Wayne, Livingston, Ontario, Seneca, Yates, Steuben, Chemung & Schuyler Counties)
7N800 - Captain
7N802 - Lt. BECI
7N8_0 - Lt. Orleans, Genesee & Monroe Counties
7N8_0 - Lt. Wayne & Ontario Counties
7N840 - Lt. Livingston & Steuben Counties
7N8_0 - Lt. Seneca, Yates, Schuyler & Chemung Counties

8N90 - Captain (Region 8 & 9)
8N81 - Lt. All Counties

BECI:
7N803, 7N804, 7N805

Orleans & Genesee Counties:
7N811, 7N812, 7N813
8N859

Monroe County:
7N821, 7N822, 7N823
8N859

Wayne County:
7N831, 7N832, 7N833
8N

Livingston County:
7N841, 7N842
8N859

Ontario County:
7N851, 7N852
8N849

Seneca County:
7N861, 7N862
8N819

Yates County:
7N871, 7N872
8N849

Steuben County:
7N881, 7N882, 7N883
8N829, 8N839

Schuyler & Chemung Counties:
7N891, 7N892, 7N893
8N819

Non-Sector Ecos
7N80_, 7N80_

Region 9 ECOs & Forest Rangers (Niagara, Erie, Wyoming, Chautauqua, Cattaraugus & Allegany Counties)
7N900 - Captain
7N902 - Lt. - BECI
7N910 - Lt. - Niagara & Erie County
7N9_0 - Lt. -
7N9_0 - Lt. -

BECI:
7N903, 7N904, 7N905

Niagara County:
7N911, 7N912, 7N913
8N919

Erie County:
N. 7N921, 7N922,
S. 7N931, 7N932, 7N933
8N919

Wyoming County:
7N941, 7N942
8N919

Chautauqua County:
7N951, 7N952, 7N953, 7N954
8N_ _

Cattaraugus County:
W: 7N961, 7N962
E: 7N971, 7N972
8N9_ _

Allegany County:
7N981, 7N982, 7N983
8N_ _

Non-Sectors ECOs:
7N90_, 7N90_

 

[Warthog1]

Excellent job on the list philb623 !!
Thank you for posting it !

 

[philb623]

Repeather Site map

Found this map of repeater sites form the the NY State Federation of Search & Rescue Site;

 

[CqDx]

That's an awesome map! I better start plugging the frequency pairs.

 

[SCPD]

Thats actually an older one. I am working with the DEC Radio tech in Region 7 to update it, in additition to updating the frequency list. As reference, 159.435, 159.225, 159.465 are all the outputs of the repeaters. They are in te process of putting PL on all channels for the outputs, in addition to going narrowband.

 

[philb623]

theicomman - I noticed in one of your prior post, you indicated that you where going to place Encon frequencies in your feed. I was wondering if you had a chance to do that yet? Thanks

 

[Warthog1]

Yesterday I heard a local ranger calling another unit on "Talkaround" 159.435 Simplex
First time for that , usually it's 151.220 simplex

 

[LathamScan]

Activity 5/16/10

Today while monitoring 159.435 I overheard two seperate conversations; unfortunately there were going on simultaneously.

One conversation was between Region 5 units on Gore (131.8 CTCSS).

At the same time, a Region 4 unit on Buck Mtn. (71.9 CTCSS) was talking to a Region 3 unit in regards to a lost person in the woods (unknown location because the person had been found). The Region 3 unit was accessing a different repeater with a CTCSS of 94.8 Hz. That repeater was definately weaker but the two units could hear each other. I didn't copy the Region 3 unit number and also didn't identify which repeater they were on.

On a side note, in the past I had monitored Blue Mtn. using a CTCSS of 254.1 Hz. Has this changed or is this still active?

Kevin

 

[philb623]

Region 3 & 5 Search:

I only had a chance to catch the tail end of the search in region 5 and they where using the DLE cathead tower for the majority of the transmissions I heard. Not sure what was going on in region 3