While these new Chinese radios seem to work well, they can be a real pain to program. While your average Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu are simple to program from the keypad, the Baofeng is very difficult to do simple keypad changes like offset, or pl changes. Fortunately, you can easily program the radio using a laptop & cable to set everything up, but do you want to carry that laptop with you just to change the pl tone? My Dad recently picked up an Icom HT, & I had never seen it, but I was able to program it in 5 minutes w/o ever looking at the owner's manual. A friend once showed me his new Chinese HT on the way to a Hamfest. After an hour I still wasn't able to figure out how to program the offset, or PL tones. So they are a good value for the money. but difficult to program from the keypad. Spend the extra & get a radio that programs easily..