Hi folks,[
Got a bunch of data for the benefit of Newfoundlanders and visitors to that fine province, but before I get around to sharing it, you should know that I'll only be posting it here in the forums instead of submitting it to the DB. If it makes it into the DB somehow, that's great, but I think I've made my last contribution to the database.
Why?
It's a difference in philosophies, I guess. I think certain so-called 'unknown' information should be in the DB so that we know what to be looking for - for example, 'logged' talkgroups should be listed, as should unidentified but known trunk systems, so people know what to focus on figuring out. Apparently not everyone shares this feeling, because other DB admins have been going thru the DB and blowing away all the stuff I've worked hard to share. This takes the policy of the owner of this site and follows it to the letter - no unidentified data, at all. (Before anyone asks, no, this has nothing to do with my resignation as DB admin & forum moderator earlier this year.)
Anyway, as I said, I respectfully disagree with the 'no unidentified information' policy being enforced as strictly as it has been, and so, from now on, I'll just provide my data in the forums for you to peruse - saving me the effort of submitting something that's just going to get deleted anyway.
I hadn't intended to get involved in a great long discussion about this, so I'll say no more about it. Without further ado, the data!
Emergency Services throughout the province
Fire Departments
Conception Bay South FD - Topsail Road Repeater
149.41 CTCSS 94.8
Conception Bay South FD - Kelligrews Repeater
171.54 CSQ
Ambulance
Fewer's Ambulance - Clarenville Repeater
162.885 CTCSS 218.1
Newfoundland Provincial Radio - RCMP/RNC system
Is the GRE PSR500 as crappy on VHF as mine seems? I had a 500 running Unitrunker on my netbook, and a BCD396XT searching and doing voice traffic duties. The 500 had trouble picking up various 150/160 MHz signals until they had been on the 396 at five bars for ages.
Several SCAT (single channel autonomous trunking) sites for rural towns. Only the St John's area gets any multi-channel sites. SCAT is a pain to put into Unitrunker - and not so friendly in the 396 either.
Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC) channels are using ProVoice modulation. Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) are in analog FM.
Sites/Channels as follows
SCAT site 1: St John's International Airport
LCN 1 - 159.69
SCAT site 1: Come By Chance
LCN 1 - 155.82
SCAT site 1: Clarenville
LCN 1 - 155.97
SCAT site 1: Holyrood
LCN 1 - 155.4
Site 13: St John's Kenmount Hill
LCN 1 - 158.76
LCN 2 - 159.27
LCN 3 - 160.41
LCN 4 - unknown*
Site 14: St John's Shea Heights
LCN 1 - 160.2
LCN 2 - 160.8
LCN 3 - 161.4
LCN 4 - 162.12*
Site 15: Marystown
LCN 1 - 161.49
other frequencies not detected
Site 16: Whitbourne
LCN 1 - 158.58
LCN 2 - 160.53
LCN 3 - 161.25
Site 24: Conception Bay
LCN 1 - 166.41
LCN 2 - 165.485
LCN 3 - 164.13
*Unitrunker reports a fourth LCN on Kenmount site with very frequent use, as much as LCN 3. Because of the close proximity of Shea Heights, it is hard to determine if 162.12 is for Shea or Kenmount.
Talkgroups
Talkgroups are shown in decimal format.
273 - RNC ProVoice (possibly St John's Airport)
279 - RNC ProVoice
280 - RNC ProVoice
283 - RNC ProVoice (possibly Info channel)
529 - RCMP Bell Island
530 - RCMP Conception Bay
531 - RCMP Holyrood
532 - RCMP Clarenville
533 - RCMP Marystown
610 - RCMP?**
611 - RCMP?**
612 - RCMP?**
613 - RCMP?**
** The 6xx series talkgroups were spotted as being affiliated to by various RCMP radios via Unitrunker. No voice traffic was monitored on these groups.
The suppositions on the two ProVoice channels were made based on 273 being very active on the Airport SCAT site and 283 appearing once or twice there as well.
RCMP/RNC dispatch center radios are numbered from 100 to roughly 110. Other radios show up in the system in blocks, with the RNC from roughly 2100 to 4250, and RCMP from 6000 to 9000.
RCMP dispatch is called "97" by officers, presumably for the last two digits of their callsign.
Northeastern Newfoundland P25
I have a feeling this may be taking over for the EDACS NPR system. The only control channels I discovered were in NE NL, in places that didn't have EDACS sites (Glovertown, Gander, and Point Leamington/Leading Tickles), and Close Call put the CCs very close to RCMP detachments. No talkgroups noted, but then again, the EDACS system is very quiet outside St John's too.
System WACN: 0000C-00C
Site 030-030 - Point Leamington
Control ch: 160.59, LCN 00-1958
Site 033-033 - Gander
Control ch: 160.485, LCN 00-1937
Other reported chs: 155.97, LCN 00-1034; 155.7, LCN 00-0980; 155.28, LCN 00-0896
Site 038-038 - Glovertown
Control ch: 160.59, LCN 00-1958
158.57 is possibly another site - very distant, hard to hear P25 signal detected on TCH approx ~100 km outside St John's.
Band plan as reported by Unitrunker:
Base 150.4
Lo 00-0000
Hi 00-4096
Spacing 5.0
North Atlantic Refinery
Motorola system 793F based in the town of Come By Chance. More TGs found besides what were already in the DB. Comms were brief and hard to determine per-TG use.
Frequencies in DB are correct.
TGs noted:
16 (possibly main operations channel)
48
80
112
144
176 (possibly Fire response)
208
240
304
336
368
464
Kewitt Offshore Services
Motorola system 8A05. Previously in the DB as an 'unknown' trunk system, but removed/depreciated. No TGs noted - operations probably closed for the race weekend when I was there. Based in Marystown, on the Burin Peninsula, doing things like oil platform and undersea cable work.
Ch 152 - 854.8125
Ch 162 - 855.0625 (control)
Ch 172 - 855.3125
Miscellaneous conventional
Gander
Transportation: 172.98 CTCSS 179.9 = Busy Bee Taxi
St John's
St John's International Airport Authority
Ramp Ops for ACA (Air Canada)
413.2125 CSQ (repeater)
And there you have it! .. Enjoy.
Got a bunch of data for the benefit of Newfoundlanders and visitors to that fine province, but before I get around to sharing it, you should know that I'll only be posting it here in the forums instead of submitting it to the DB. If it makes it into the DB somehow, that's great, but I think I've made my last contribution to the database.
Why?
It's a difference in philosophies, I guess. I think certain so-called 'unknown' information should be in the DB so that we know what to be looking for - for example, 'logged' talkgroups should be listed, as should unidentified but known trunk systems, so people know what to focus on figuring out. Apparently not everyone shares this feeling, because other DB admins have been going thru the DB and blowing away all the stuff I've worked hard to share. This takes the policy of the owner of this site and follows it to the letter - no unidentified data, at all. (Before anyone asks, no, this has nothing to do with my resignation as DB admin & forum moderator earlier this year.)
Anyway, as I said, I respectfully disagree with the 'no unidentified information' policy being enforced as strictly as it has been, and so, from now on, I'll just provide my data in the forums for you to peruse - saving me the effort of submitting something that's just going to get deleted anyway.
I hadn't intended to get involved in a great long discussion about this, so I'll say no more about it. Without further ado, the data!
Emergency Services throughout the province
Fire Departments
Conception Bay South FD - Topsail Road Repeater
149.41 CTCSS 94.8
Conception Bay South FD - Kelligrews Repeater
171.54 CSQ
Ambulance
Fewer's Ambulance - Clarenville Repeater
162.885 CTCSS 218.1
Newfoundland Provincial Radio - RCMP/RNC system
Is the GRE PSR500 as crappy on VHF as mine seems? I had a 500 running Unitrunker on my netbook, and a BCD396XT searching and doing voice traffic duties. The 500 had trouble picking up various 150/160 MHz signals until they had been on the 396 at five bars for ages.
Several SCAT (single channel autonomous trunking) sites for rural towns. Only the St John's area gets any multi-channel sites. SCAT is a pain to put into Unitrunker - and not so friendly in the 396 either.
Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC) channels are using ProVoice modulation. Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) are in analog FM.
Sites/Channels as follows
SCAT site 1: St John's International Airport
LCN 1 - 159.69
SCAT site 1: Come By Chance
LCN 1 - 155.82
SCAT site 1: Clarenville
LCN 1 - 155.97
SCAT site 1: Holyrood
LCN 1 - 155.4
Site 13: St John's Kenmount Hill
LCN 1 - 158.76
LCN 2 - 159.27
LCN 3 - 160.41
LCN 4 - unknown*
Site 14: St John's Shea Heights
LCN 1 - 160.2
LCN 2 - 160.8
LCN 3 - 161.4
LCN 4 - 162.12*
Site 15: Marystown
LCN 1 - 161.49
other frequencies not detected
Site 16: Whitbourne
LCN 1 - 158.58
LCN 2 - 160.53
LCN 3 - 161.25
Site 24: Conception Bay
LCN 1 - 166.41
LCN 2 - 165.485
LCN 3 - 164.13
*Unitrunker reports a fourth LCN on Kenmount site with very frequent use, as much as LCN 3. Because of the close proximity of Shea Heights, it is hard to determine if 162.12 is for Shea or Kenmount.
Talkgroups
Talkgroups are shown in decimal format.
273 - RNC ProVoice (possibly St John's Airport)
279 - RNC ProVoice
280 - RNC ProVoice
283 - RNC ProVoice (possibly Info channel)
529 - RCMP Bell Island
530 - RCMP Conception Bay
531 - RCMP Holyrood
532 - RCMP Clarenville
533 - RCMP Marystown
610 - RCMP?**
611 - RCMP?**
612 - RCMP?**
613 - RCMP?**
** The 6xx series talkgroups were spotted as being affiliated to by various RCMP radios via Unitrunker. No voice traffic was monitored on these groups.
The suppositions on the two ProVoice channels were made based on 273 being very active on the Airport SCAT site and 283 appearing once or twice there as well.
RCMP/RNC dispatch center radios are numbered from 100 to roughly 110. Other radios show up in the system in blocks, with the RNC from roughly 2100 to 4250, and RCMP from 6000 to 9000.
RCMP dispatch is called "97" by officers, presumably for the last two digits of their callsign.
Northeastern Newfoundland P25
I have a feeling this may be taking over for the EDACS NPR system. The only control channels I discovered were in NE NL, in places that didn't have EDACS sites (Glovertown, Gander, and Point Leamington/Leading Tickles), and Close Call put the CCs very close to RCMP detachments. No talkgroups noted, but then again, the EDACS system is very quiet outside St John's too.
System WACN: 0000C-00C
Site 030-030 - Point Leamington
Control ch: 160.59, LCN 00-1958
Site 033-033 - Gander
Control ch: 160.485, LCN 00-1937
Other reported chs: 155.97, LCN 00-1034; 155.7, LCN 00-0980; 155.28, LCN 00-0896
Site 038-038 - Glovertown
Control ch: 160.59, LCN 00-1958
158.57 is possibly another site - very distant, hard to hear P25 signal detected on TCH approx ~100 km outside St John's.
Band plan as reported by Unitrunker:
Base 150.4
Lo 00-0000
Hi 00-4096
Spacing 5.0
North Atlantic Refinery
Motorola system 793F based in the town of Come By Chance. More TGs found besides what were already in the DB. Comms were brief and hard to determine per-TG use.
Frequencies in DB are correct.
TGs noted:
16 (possibly main operations channel)
48
80
112
144
176 (possibly Fire response)
208
240
304
336
368
464
Kewitt Offshore Services
Motorola system 8A05. Previously in the DB as an 'unknown' trunk system, but removed/depreciated. No TGs noted - operations probably closed for the race weekend when I was there. Based in Marystown, on the Burin Peninsula, doing things like oil platform and undersea cable work.
Ch 152 - 854.8125
Ch 162 - 855.0625 (control)
Ch 172 - 855.3125
Miscellaneous conventional
Gander
Transportation: 172.98 CTCSS 179.9 = Busy Bee Taxi
St John's
St John's International Airport Authority
Ramp Ops for ACA (Air Canada)
413.2125 CSQ (repeater)
And there you have it! .. Enjoy.
