News photographer ditches brand new 436HP, film at 11
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fourthhorseman
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....Still waiting for the film at 11......
jon, your a wanker. 
This is not a theoretical argument, this is a piece of work hardware that cannot meet the performance standards in a mission critical environment. It's like you saying the los Angeles Sheriff's Department cannot compare the Camaro PPV against the Police Interceptor sedan unless they both use the same size tires. Ok, that was a lame analogy, better yet, unless they use the same drivers.
In my line of work it is a competition, you miss a gear or miss a call, either way, you loose, and the guy with the better hardware wins. 396XT wins, 436HP looses. You wana have a listen off? We sit/stand/walk around in the same room, you get the HP with headphones, I get the XT with headphones. Whoever logs the most calls, addresses, incidents wins. Game on.
Just joking about the wanker comment. :-D
Paul
PS: Teufler, is that an FB-111?
This is not a theoretical argument, this is a piece of work hardware that cannot meet the performance standards in a mission critical environment. It's like you saying the los Angeles Sheriff's Department cannot compare the Camaro PPV against the Police Interceptor sedan unless they both use the same size tires. Ok, that was a lame analogy, better yet, unless they use the same drivers.
In my line of work it is a competition, you miss a gear or miss a call, either way, you loose, and the guy with the better hardware wins. 396XT wins, 436HP looses. You wana have a listen off? We sit/stand/walk around in the same room, you get the HP with headphones, I get the XT with headphones. Whoever logs the most calls, addresses, incidents wins. Game on.
Just joking about the wanker comment. :-D
Paul
PS: Teufler, is that an FB-111?
JamesO
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jon, your a wanker.
This is not a theoretical argument, this is a piece of work hardware that cannot meet the performance standards in a mission critical environment. It's like you saying the los Angeles Sheriff's Department cannot compare the Camaro PPV against the Police Interceptor sedan unless they both use the same size tires. Ok, that was a lame analogy, better yet, unless they use the same drivers.
In my line of work it is a competition, you miss a gear or miss a call, either way, you loose, and the guy with the better hardware wins. 396XT wins, 436HP looses. You wana have a listen off? We sit/stand/walk around in the same room, you get the HP with headphones, I get the XT with headphones. Whoever logs the most calls, addresses, incidents wins. Game on.
Just joking about the wanker comment. :-D
Paul
PS: Teufler, is that an FB-111?
The problem is the headphones!!
jon, your a wanker.
It's like you saying the los Angeles Sheriff's Department cannot compare the Camaro PPV against the Police Interceptor sedan unless they both use the same size tires. Ok, that was a lame analogy, better yet, unless they use the same drivers.
Actually it's a totally invalid analogy. If one of the antennas has a cold solder joint or some other flaw, what you're doing is like comparing car X to car Y, but not letting car Y shift out of 2nd gear.
The fact that the 436 outperforms the 396 in some of your tests suggests that the receiver itself isn't the problem, it's something else, like decode settings. But until you do a same-antenna comparison, you can't really draw any firm conclusions about which radio performs better.
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Also, it's "you're a wanker", not "your a wanker", and "loses" is the opposite of "wins", not "looses". See "Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes - YouTube for more details.
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Cheers!
I ain't fraid of know ghost!
So anyway, I ran the 436HP all night alongside my 996 XT scanners, hooked it up to the "spare" BNC lead off of my 8 port multi-coupler. The 436HP held it's own against the XT's in analog reception, practically no real difference in sensitivity when fed with the same external high gain 800MHz antenna. P25 was another story. The 436HP left the 996XT's in the dust in P25 decode performance, not only in local full signal conditions, but also in distant single bar conditions as well. The digital decoding is clean and just sounds better. The XT's sound shrill and harsh by comparison, even under the best of conditions. The 996XT really doesn't like being near cell phone towers, and a full signal reading is no assurance the voice traffic won't break into chunks. This is on a standard 23600 mixed mode non simulcast system by the way.
I read in another post someone saying that the 436 doesn't like a built in antenna, and prefers an external one, and I would have to agree. In a handheld application, I would NOT trust the 436HP to be able to receive, regardless of the antenna I place on it. In a mobile environment though, I DO NOT trust my 996XT's to render an acceptably understandable P25 transmission, which is why I rely on Motorola's to lock into anything that gets my interest on the 996. That is not the case with the 436HP. I have complete confidence that if I lock something in (p25) I will be able to readily understand the voice traffic, without break-up and robotic annoyances.
I now want a bunch of 536HP's in my car to replace my 996XT's........seriously, they work that well in San Diego. the 436HP will most likely be turned into my remote streaming scanner whenever I find a way to virtual control it. I can't seem to get ANY program to recognize it when hooked up via the GPS jack and the old school Uniden DMA programming cable.
Paul
So anyway, I ran the 436HP all night alongside my 996 XT scanners, hooked it up to the "spare" BNC lead off of my 8 port multi-coupler. The 436HP held it's own against the XT's in analog reception, practically no real difference in sensitivity when fed with the same external high gain 800MHz antenna. P25 was another story. The 436HP left the 996XT's in the dust in P25 decode performance, not only in local full signal conditions, but also in distant single bar conditions as well. The digital decoding is clean and just sounds better. The XT's sound shrill and harsh by comparison, even under the best of conditions. The 996XT really doesn't like being near cell phone towers, and a full signal reading is no assurance the voice traffic won't break into chunks. This is on a standard 23600 mixed mode non simulcast system by the way.
I read in another post someone saying that the 436 doesn't like a built in antenna, and prefers an external one, and I would have to agree. In a handheld application, I would NOT trust the 436HP to be able to receive, regardless of the antenna I place on it. In a mobile environment though, I DO NOT trust my 996XT's to render an acceptably understandable P25 transmission, which is why I rely on Motorola's to lock into anything that gets my interest on the 996. That is not the case with the 436HP. I have complete confidence that if I lock something in (p25) I will be able to readily understand the voice traffic, without break-up and robotic annoyances.
I now want a bunch of 536HP's in my car to replace my 996XT's........seriously, they work that well in San Diego. the 436HP will most likely be turned into my remote streaming scanner whenever I find a way to virtual control it. I can't seem to get ANY program to recognize it when hooked up via the GPS jack and the old school Uniden DMA programming cable.
Paul
So you are changing your story It seems.You like the HP series now but what has changed?Anyway good luck anyhoo.
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No, handheld it is still totally unusable for mye considering I already have a 396XT which outperforms it at that function. In a mobile environment, even hanging from my seat organizer, it is difficult to operate the banks without hitting the wrong button and leaving the scanner in zip code entry, and the audio level is lacking for in car use. It did however sell me on the HP receiver/decoder in a mobile environment, with an external antenna. With an external speaker and hard mounted keypad readily available, it would do wonders.........except for the 536's placement of the dial, which I still think is uber-retarded.
If I can remote operate the 436, the favorite/system/department/channel feature could actually be handy assuming I can locate the little guy where it can receive adequately. As soon as a Siren app comes out allowing over-the-internet control and monitoring of an HP, I will be sure to replace the 436 with a 536HP.
Paul
If I can remote operate the 436, the favorite/system/department/channel feature could actually be handy assuming I can locate the little guy where it can receive adequately. As soon as a Siren app comes out allowing over-the-internet control and monitoring of an HP, I will be sure to replace the 436 with a 536HP.
Paul
So again you keep contradicting yourself in each post you put up.You're last post went one way and well nevermind .
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scannermanner1
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Agreed but still you have contradicted yourself at least once in this thread.Anyway all good and Happy Scanning.I have in fact heard mules described as "stubborn".
Regardless, the information posted should be useful to those evaluating the scanner for the applications described.
Paul
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I concur...where's the Aspirin.....
On a positive note, I'm glad to see he did (finally) admit that the 436 is a big improvement and that he did get the great results others have reported.
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