• Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

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mkt853

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Your opinion, and where does it say you can't listen?
It doesn't, but it doesn't say you're guaranteed to be able to listen either just like we couldn't when digital systems first became a thing. Next time there's a Sandy Hook, we're going to have radio silence from law enforcement, and we'll get to hear about it on the news, or maybe piece it together using other services that are still in the clear. As more public safety opts in to the new statewide system, suspect most of the traffic will be encrypted because all units will be capable of it, and there won't be interop issues since it's all one big system. CSP will eventually go quiet as well, and with each troop getting its own dedicated encrypted channel, the direction where that's heading is loud and clear unlike their dispatch channels in the future.
 

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It would be helpful if you could be a little more specific. Encrypting law enforcement radio transmissions does not violate the law. You just can't listen in real time for free anymore. You can go down to the local police station and request an edited version of their radio traffic for a fee. I would anticipate this is the way of the future, and there's not much any one can do about it other than find other things to listen to.
That's what they want.
 
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I guess we'll be throwing the scanners away in the not too distant future.

I guess because we let it happen, I for one don't trust government to release timely and accurate information on anything. I remember head of DEP after 911 saying that the air by ground zero was OK, turns out it was nowhere OK. I was down there so I am a little burned by this.
 
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Your opinion, and where does it say you can't listen?
No one says you can't listen, You can listen to any PD you want, You just can't listen LIVE because its encrypted
Like he said you have every right to go down and FOI any or all of the communications

Don't confuse WANTING to listen live with NEEDING to listen live...You have the WANT not the NEED
 
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I prefer not to engage in any conversations with those that think the government should be hidden in any way especially radio communications. Look through my posts for my opinion on this subject for the last 10 or more years.
Then we agree 100% with each other. And now you know no one is hidden, and you can listen to encrypted communications by getting the recordings. 100% transparent.
 

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Then we agree 100% with each other. And now you know no one is hidden, and you can listen to encrypted communications by getting the recordings. 100% transparent.
Nearly 100% as departments sometimes edit the recordings to remove sensitive info. It's the same as a police report in that you can request it, but they may withhold or redact some things. I think EMS will be next to go dark, and that's already under way by dispatching EMS over encrypted PD channels. I've been told it's because of HIPPA, but who knows if that's just another excuse as I am not well versed in such legal matters.
 
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