NFTA LRRT in Buffalo

[videobruce]

I was informed to come here and ask about this system which I was going to do anyway;

Niagara Frontier Transit Authority Trunking System, Buffalo, New York

Niagara Frontier Transit Authority Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Right now I have a communication issue between ProScan (trial) and this 996P2 with the message that the port is in use with itself (more or less) so I'm kinda dead in the water so to speak..

I was trying to program the NFTA's LRRT (Light Rail Rapid Transit) system and their police department (little interest in the airport or buses) into the radio either from the radio or the software, but I have close to no idea how to do so. I came across another listing for the NFTA that shows additional 800MHz channels other that the 6 that are in RR's database;

RR Database Home

The most complete database of radio communications data

www.radioreference.com

So the question is, those 6 in the 1st link good frequencies for the LRRT?

 

[62Truck]

Right now I have a communication issue between ProScan (trial) and this 996P2 with the message that the port is in use with itself (more or less) so I'm kinda dead in the water so to speak..

Try changing the comport

You're a premium subscriber you can select what you want to import from the DB

 

[lkas]

yes these are the freq i have in my SDS-100 and get NFTA police with no issues

851.5375

02 851.9625

03 852.4625

04 852.9625

05 851.6625

06 852.0875

 

[videobruce]

I changed the port twice, it did work on com 3. Another box popped up saying another software might be using it. There is no other.

How about the LRRT?

 

[62Truck]

I changed the port twice, it did work on com 3. Another box popped up saying another software might be using it. There is no other.

How about the LRRT?

Try plugging the scanner into a different USB port

 

[Saint]

I was informed to come here and ask about this system which I was going to do anyway;

Niagara Frontier Transit Authority Trunking System, Buffalo, New York

Niagara Frontier Transit Authority Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Right now I have a communication issue between ProScan (trial) and this 996P2 with the message that the port is in use with itself (more or less) so I'm kinda dead in the water so to speak..

I was trying to program the NFTA's LRRT (Light Rail Rapid Transit) system and their police department (little interest in the airport or buses) into the radio either from the radio or the software, but I have close to no idea how to do so. I came across another listing for the NFTA that shows additional 800MHz channels other that the 6 that are in RR's database;

RR Database Home

The most complete database of radio communications data

www.radioreference.com

So the question is, those 6 in the 1st link good frequencies for the LRRT?

This is the site you need to put into your scanner
Niagara Frontier Transit Authority Trunking System, Buffalo, New York - Scanner Frequencies (radioreference.com)
Steve

 

[62Truck]

As others have stated, the easiest way is to import it from the DB into ProScan.

 

[videobruce]

When it comes to any of this, NOTHING is "easy" except getting frustrated.
Yes that is the site, but the procedure is anything but clear.
Different USB porst if off the same bus won't make any difference. It'd the "com" port that is the problem since this is a serial interface.

 

[BTFire21]

First thing with the 996p2 did you download and install drivers from Uniden?

 

[videobruce]

Yes on the drivers, this worked 3 or 4 times before, I think it's in the Comm Port setting screen. This is where I'm at now;



I just checked DM and it now shows the Uniden port as Com 5.

 

[videobruce]

Well, I changed the port to #5 now and it worked.

I managed to find the NFTA listings and unchecked what I didn't want. Uploaded it to the scanner checking that 3rd choice about NOT deleting anything in the scanner. Now I wound up with nothing, it deleted all the manual entries in the scanner and whatever was sent there. I'm left with a 'Nothing to Scan' message apparently Unidens BSOD (death sentence).

Ok, what happened?

 

[62Truck]

Should of read the scanner first then import the system and then write the scanner

 

[videobruce]

I'm suppose to know that how?? That 3rd choice stated not to delete. Is this a bug??

Well, I found what I uploaded when I hit Menu, but I don't know what to do wit it. I don't need to rename it but I can't figure out how to get it to scan. Why does it say nothing to scan when there is?

 

[videobruce]

Can I manually enter in frequencies using ProScan instead of using the keypad on the scanner?

 

[videobruce]

Ok back OT, how about actual LRRT activity?
I finally got this programmed in and I hear a lot of bus activity, mostly looking for drivers to cover open spots later in the day, not what I wanted to hear.

Below is the choices I made unchecking Airport & Bus.Why am I hearing Bus communications on the "Simulcast" frequencies (not the last 5 shown in the list)??;

 

[GTR8000]

Is the scanner in ID Search mode? If so, you will hear everything that is not locked out.

You need to either switch to ID Scan mode, or import the whole system and lock out what you don't want to hear.

 

[GTR8000]

Understand that not importing or not programming talkgroups doesn't automatically mean you won't hear them. If the scanner is in ID Search mode, it will stop on everything not specifically programmed and locked out. ID Scan mode is what forces the scanner to only stop on that which you have programmed and not locked out.

So the lesson here is that you're better off importing the entire system, then lock out whole groups of talkgroups or individual talkgroups, even if you use ID Scan mode. That way if you want to switch to ID Search mode to listen for new, undocumented talkgroups, you can do so without having to hear the stuff you don't care about.

The 996P2 Easier to Read guide has info on how to switch between ID Search and ID Scan, so take the time to familiarize yourself with that, it provides a lot of basic info.

 

[videobruce]

I'm not sure about the ID search mode, I didn't do anything special when importing that trunk group.

I'm hearing some, it just seem to be well less that what I use to hear before they switched to 800 trunk from a 400Meg non trunk system. But that was 30+ years ago.
It's more of a problem hearing buss 'chatter' then anything else.
Let me ask you this. This unwanted chatter are always on one of the 6 'simulcast entries vs coming thru on the 5 'named' service entries.
I'm using the term "entries" vs 'channels' per what I have read about calling them "channels" if all of that makes sense.
The other question; when I L/O these simulcast entries with the chatter, is that a problem for the wanted traffic?

 

[GTR8000]

I'll be honest, I'm not really sure what you're asking. Your posts over the past few days have me so confused that I have no idea what or how you have this system programmed at this point.

"Simulcast" refers to the trunked system frequencies. You do not want to remove or lock those out. Everything else is a talkgroup. You can selectively lock those out based on what you want to hear.

Bottom line: there is really no point in selectively importing the talkgroups, you may as well import them all, then lock out the stuff you don't care about. You have more control over what you hear with that method.

 

[DudleyG]

When you imported the info for that system thru ProScan, the default is ID Search. Click on the entry in ProScan for that system and in the box next to it on the right, you will see the ID Search option. Click on that and change it to ID Scan, then write your info back to your scanner.

With ID Scan, you will only hear the talkgroups you have listed.