NJSP Migration to NJICS

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08.09.2023 West Trenton, NJ Motorola P25 Communications Network Rollout 08-09-2023 | Colonel Patrick Callahan and Motorola Solutions Regional Vice President Dave White announce transition to state-of-the-art Project 25 Radio Network. | By New Jersey

Colonel Patrick Callahan and Motorola Solutions Regional Vice President Dave White announce transition to state-of-the-art Project 25 Radio Network.

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Event celebrating NJSP 3yr 61 Million dollar Radio Upgrade

 

[rr60]

This is a testament to the hard work and commitment by many people. Very nice to see the Colonel acknowledge the importance of reliable communications for those in the field.

Somerset County could learn a thing or two by watching this video. The Fire and EMS left on a band (500-506MHZ) DTV19 that is unusable at times from interference is deplorable. This has been going on for several years now. Off the soapbox..for now.

 

[richee2000]

I watched the video and the colonel is touting the "interoperability" of all of the EMS, fire departments, local police departments, county Police department and State Police departments on the NJICS system.

I listen to this system on a daily basis and I hear almost no interoperability communications whatsoever, between any of these agencies.

In fact, SPEN, The antiquated VHF base station system is still the preferred interoperability channel in New Jersey.

And then you have some p25 county systems such as Morris county and Somerset county , that do have interop talk groups.

So , maybe the NJICS system offers interoperability capabilities but from what I can see they are rarely used.

The one exception would be Newark fire department channel 4 which combines police and fire during large emergencies.

Perhaps some of these interop communications are encrypted, and that's why we don't hear any of these communications.

 

[GTR8000]

Or perhaps they're not required on a day to day basis, and so usage is light. Keep in mind that part of the "interoperability" equation is the fact that many NJ systems now have 700/800 MHz sites, meaning a ton of agencies have 700/800 MHz capable subscribers. In addition to dedicated interop talkgroups on various systems, there is also the abundance of dedicated off-network 7CALL/TAC/LAW/FIRE/MED and 8CALL/TAC simplex and/or repeated channels.

Don't get me wrong, the purest and simplest form of interop will always be an analog simplex channel that everyone has access to, however in 2023 VHF is a dying band with many having jumped ship to UHF/700/800 ages ago. Multi-band radios becoming more mainstream certainly help with interoperability by providing access to every band, however they also come at a premium cost.

Bottom line is that nothing comes easy or cheap in the RF/public safety world, and it'll always be a work in progress.

 

[rr60]

You likely hear it but don’t give it a second thought. Interoperability is a very very broad term and subject to interpretation. There are plenty, perhaps not all. Here are just a couple.

Mountain Valley and and the many talkgroups involved. Some in different Counities.

Union County Communications. Most towns have adopted NJICS.
This is a big improvement over the past. I even heard USAR 7 today
interops for a shoring job in Newark. USAR 7 itself is all about interops.

There are many many more. Interops more often than not comes down to training. Many have problems with more than one channel never mind the concept of Zones.

 

[FT752]

There are many many more. Interops more often than not comes down to training. Many have problems with more than one channel never mind the concept of Zones.

Oh no, not anything but zone Primary!

 

[Skypilot007]

That's a funny story about Callahan loosing his radio. Many years ago another trooper (Red Lion) lost his radio in the woods and I was lucky enough to find it. This was prior to any trunk tracking scanners being available in the late 80's right after the switch to the then new Smartnet system. I used the found radio as a scanner for a number of years before it was inhibited. They got their radio back after that.

 

[iamrftechnj]

that guy at the end getting the award must be an amazing leader being able to accomplish all that by himself. a genuine 1 man band.

 

[Frequency1]

That's a funny story about Callahan loosing his radio. Many years ago another trooper (Red Lion) lost his radio in the woods and I was lucky enough to find it. This was prior to any trunk tracking scanners being available in the late 80's right after the switch to the then new Smartnet system. I used the found radio as a scanner for a number of years before it was inhibited. They got their radio back after that.

Holding onto official police property "for a number of years" ....IMHO not something to be proud of.

 

[FT752]

Serendipity at its finest.

 

[joey123]

Iv noticed since the new system is full capacity and the old system is shutdown iv noticed the reception is offer I’m in moorstown nj near the nj moorstown mall nj am I out of transmitter site / Berlin site I’m wondering if that’s the issue my location is I’m at the pleasent Vally apartments on Camden avenue in moorstown nj

 

[joey123]

Any idea how much was the new radio stystem Cost

 

[iamrftechnj]

I thought the news story said 65 million.