No Air to Air Freq up North?

[jimmnn]

This is crazy don't the choppers up North use 123.025 or some sort of air to air channel?

Just heard Medevac 1 call there dispatch in Colorado Springs on Med-3 to say call AirLife dispatch to see where there ship from Frederick is going because they just lifted from the firehouse pad right under us and we "had to avoid them".

Weird and dangerous at the same time.

Jim<

 

[NorthCOVideo]

Heard that also, they also came back a min later asking if they should land as Air life was not to far away. They seem to have some big comm issues.

On another note wheres their flight pattern from Greeley to Denver it always seems to be right over Fort Lupton here. Right around the same time Medevac 1 and 2 both called into dispatch, one headed to Childrens with a patient and the other coming from Childrens to NCMC, which would put them passing over my area about the same time, but I never saw or heard them until on the radio when they landed.

The communications issue always seams to be a big thing for them, even bigger when they can't talk to ground crews, this was shown with the wreck on I-76 the other night, when they could not get in contact with ground crews they landed where they pleased, this was also due to the wind. They almost need a set digital ch to use for that type of thing or allow them the use of P25 to contact ground crews on their fireground or tac ch.

They also had to go through 3 different med chs to get a patch through to Childrens .

Medevac seems to keep their humor up though.

 

[Troop]

they usually fly the main roads, 85, I-25 and I-76

 

[NorthCOVideo]

I see, which ever to try and avoid each other.

 

[abqscan]

VFR, its amazing how many times you gotta move out of the way of other A/C =)

 

[Halfpint]

SWMBO and I have been listening to the `mess' and discussing it ever since the C Springs people took over the Ops up this way and we've only been able to come up with one fairly `reasonable?' `explanation?'.

IE: "We are `civilized' and `know better' than you `yokels' and `our way' *is* the `way' we are going to be doing things and `the heck with you'. Besides that it's *our* eqiupment and if you don't like it we'll just take our `toys' and go home."

Yeah, I *know* that seems to be both kinda harsh and a bit `peckish' but, as SWMBO noted yesterday after listening to them trying to go through NCMC, on Med 3 / 463.050MHz, to try and find out what AirLife was doing still on the pad and when would they be lifting off *and* not seemingly being able to get anywhere "Things have gotten *completely* `FUBAR' since the change and, so far, it appears it isn't getting any better. There *was* a functional system in place that with only a few minor `glitches', like some ground units possibly not having a radio with Fire A or Fire B in it or not knowing where aforesaid `channels' / `freqs' were in the radio and such, that worked quite well. Then these `yahoos' took over and things went nuts."

We *will* admit that there is *some* good to having some more choppers around for `air-evac' for those cases where `ground' transport could be problematic. If we had been able to get a nickle for every time we heard calls for a chopper and they were all in use and wouldn't be `free' any time soon we'd not be worrying about when we could find a buyer for this place and would be moved already. We have been needing a couple more `med' choppers for quite some time.

Back on the `Con' side... There are days when we wonder if there may be too may choppers up this way. Some days the air space above us sounds like a `rush hour freeway' with flights crisscrossing overhead going every which way. Now, we do know, not *all* of the `traffic' are `med-choppers' but, since the change, things *have* become noticably changed. It seems that WCRs 17 & 19 have become the `corridor d'jour' for not only everyone else but, also, the `med-choppers', too. Amazingly enough, today, has been remarkably quite so far. We haven't had a single chopper or plane `buzz' us, yet. (Seems like everyone likes flying at around 500' - 1000' or so when they come through this stretch. [The military choppers seem to be the worst at it but the `med' choppers come in an awfully close second. Though aerial spraying hasn't gotten started and some of those boys, even when spraying fields several miles away, like to `hug' the ground a lot of the time. (We've never had any `problems' with the sprayers as we have been `clients' many times ourselves and know the `whys & wherefores' for the way and levels they fly. And they really are only out for a couple 1 - 3 week stretches a couple times during the `season'. [We suspect that, because of the growth of so-called `civilization' around here, we will be seeing, and hearing, them less and less while all the other traffic will just keep on increasing.{FROWN!}])])

Oh, well... Just a couple old farmer's / fogie's 2¢ worth. We only wish that "The Boys" would learn to `play together better'.