So I have a uniden bcd536hp and I’m trying to monitor a p25 p2 system. i got all of the info from radio reference database and it connects to the site. the talkgroup come up and everything but there’s no audio coming through
No audio on p25
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Are you sure the TG's aren't encrypted? You may want to provide what system and TG's you're referring to.
trentbob
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First of all Matt you are going to have to tap on report and have a moderator eliminate one of your duplicate threads, we can't have two going at the same time. I'm going with this one because you already have a reply here.
If we're going to help you it's imperative that you give us your exact County and State and the system that you are trying to pick up so it can be checked for encryption and possible simulcast issues. The 536 is not a simulcast capable radio and could be dealing with issues of simulcast distortion secondary to LSM.
If people start responding to your other duplicate thread the two will need to be combined.
Make sure that all service types are enabled.
If we're going to help you it's imperative that you give us your exact County and State and the system that you are trying to pick up so it can be checked for encryption and possible simulcast issues. The 536 is not a simulcast capable radio and could be dealing with issues of simulcast distortion secondary to LSM.
If people start responding to your other duplicate thread the two will need to be combined.
Make sure that all service types are enabled.
Judging by the OP's previous postings I'll take a stab and say Luzerne County Public Safety. If this is the correct system & going by what the OP reported I'd draw a conclusion that simulcast distortion is likely the issue at hand here. It is one of the most documented issues on these forums and there are thousands of postings here on the topic. This system (& other simulcast systems for that matter) would be much better monitored using a Uniden SDS100 or SDS200. Given the fact that the system is brand new (looks like still in testing phase going by this thread?) & there is only one identified talkgroup I'd also assume encryption may be in place (at least for LE)
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ok thank you the system I’m trying to monitor is the PA-STARNET ECEN simulcast. I was able to pick it up before but now I’m not getting anything and non of the TG are encrypted.
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trentbob
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Okie dokie... the Pennsylvania starnet p25 Statewide Radio Network is a phase 2 system. I'm going to be very honest with you Matt and say that I do not monitor the system and have absolutely no need for it. The only thing I would be able to hear with a simulcast capable scanner like to the SDS 100 and 200 is the Department of Transportation which I have no interest in.
Anything I would want to listen to like PSP or State Park Rangers are indeed encrypted.
I'm aware of the system and familiar with it only to a certain extent.
If you see this John, I'm sure you will be able to help Matt out with whatever it is that he wants to hear on this system that is not encrypted.
I monitor PA STARNET from time to time, particularly during major snow events. The amount of traffic from site to site greatly differs. I can't speak for what is "in the clear" in the OP's region but in the Philly region you'll normally hear traffic from PENNDOT & Game Commission but there isn't very much else in the clear. Here's a tip for the OP: Every talkgroup here ID'ed as mode "TE" is fully encrypted and therefore cannot be monitored, this includes all of PA State Police. Only mode "T" talkgroups are in the clear and can be monitored so the OP will want to make sure the appropriate service types are turned on for the desired (mode "T") talkgroups. If a talkgroup briefly flashes but no audio comes through, chances are said talkgroup is encrypted. Again, this can be verified by looking at the database and observing mode "TE".
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Ok so the TG that I want to monitor are all fire TG which are not encrypted what I don’t get is that I’m able to pick this same site up loud and clear on my unication G5 but not on the 536
A lot of the unencrypted TGs on this system use less common service types, multi-tac, public works, etc. Are you sure you have appropriate service types enabled?
Are the Fire-Dispatch, Fire-Talk & Fire-Tac service types turned on?
Yes I have all of that turned on
Are you only scanning one site at a time? (site hold)
Yes
Volume and squelch settings ?
Squelch I usually keep at like 10 and volume all the way up
Well that would be the issue. Squelch should be at 2.
Ok thank you I’ll have to try that
bwoodley
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So this is my first time looking for help with what appears to be an nearly identical problem for me on my BCD536HP.
I'm using this scanner to replace an existing older analog only unit so that our fire house can continue to receive the digital transmissions as we migrate from an existing VHF analog system to the nearby city's 800 P25 system. The specific system is the Salem P25 system in Salem, Oregon.
I've engaged the dealer and uniden support and neither were of any value. The uniden support person indicated - 'well, the SDS200 would be better suited to your needs.' Hindsight 20/20. I've imported the default template and manually entered the system information. The code plug and scanner have been sent back to the dealer and returned indicating - there's nothing wrong with the scanner or the code plug.
The units permanent home is about 5 miles north of the city itself so we're technically on one side of their system. My chief problem there is although my portable 2-way radio sitting next to it works just fine, both display great signal strength, the audio works fine on my 2-way but the scanner doesn't stop on a talk group and produce the exact same audio.
The thought that if their system is a simulcast system and having heard mixed commentary about how this unit either fails completely or has 'difficulty' receiving a simulcast system (after the purchase of course) is concerning. I've seen a couple of YouTube videos on how folks have implemented work arounds to cope with the simulcast problem. None of those seem to make a difference here.
I have a known 'encrypted' police talk group enabled to work along side what is supposed to be non-encrypted P25 talk groups. To my amazement - I hear more garbled encrypted audio from the police talk group than I do the non-encrypted fire talk groups - GO FIGURE. Today I'm working from a different office in the city where I would believe I would have more problems with simulcast - and I'm actually getting more frequent transmissions from the fire talk groups, although the audio is horrible similar to that of a child's plastic CB toy radio.
So my question to the group then becomes - can the physical location of the radio in relationship to a potential simulcasted system affect the performance of the scanner? If so, how?
Does anyone potentially see an issue that I haven't thought of or is there a programming parameter that may be of value? I have seen, System ID and Site ID values when observing the diagnostic 'System Status' but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with physical radio sites specifically.
Any probing questions or advice greatly appreciated.
Brian
I'm using this scanner to replace an existing older analog only unit so that our fire house can continue to receive the digital transmissions as we migrate from an existing VHF analog system to the nearby city's 800 P25 system. The specific system is the Salem P25 system in Salem, Oregon.
I've engaged the dealer and uniden support and neither were of any value. The uniden support person indicated - 'well, the SDS200 would be better suited to your needs.' Hindsight 20/20. I've imported the default template and manually entered the system information. The code plug and scanner have been sent back to the dealer and returned indicating - there's nothing wrong with the scanner or the code plug.
The units permanent home is about 5 miles north of the city itself so we're technically on one side of their system. My chief problem there is although my portable 2-way radio sitting next to it works just fine, both display great signal strength, the audio works fine on my 2-way but the scanner doesn't stop on a talk group and produce the exact same audio.
The thought that if their system is a simulcast system and having heard mixed commentary about how this unit either fails completely or has 'difficulty' receiving a simulcast system (after the purchase of course) is concerning. I've seen a couple of YouTube videos on how folks have implemented work arounds to cope with the simulcast problem. None of those seem to make a difference here.
I have a known 'encrypted' police talk group enabled to work along side what is supposed to be non-encrypted P25 talk groups. To my amazement - I hear more garbled encrypted audio from the police talk group than I do the non-encrypted fire talk groups - GO FIGURE. Today I'm working from a different office in the city where I would believe I would have more problems with simulcast - and I'm actually getting more frequent transmissions from the fire talk groups, although the audio is horrible similar to that of a child's plastic CB toy radio.
So my question to the group then becomes - can the physical location of the radio in relationship to a potential simulcasted system affect the performance of the scanner? If so, how?
Does anyone potentially see an issue that I haven't thought of or is there a programming parameter that may be of value? I have seen, System ID and Site ID values when observing the diagnostic 'System Status' but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with physical radio sites specifically.
Any probing questions or advice greatly appreciated.
Brian
bwoodley
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So did I post to the wrong group or did I perform a no-no in forum etiquette -or- is it just possible nobody has a real solution to my situation?
I recently was told by one of the system technicians, 'our system is a Linear Simulcasted in both C4FM (Phase 1) and QCPQSK (Phase 2) that operates dynamically between the two on each RF channel'.
Thanks again...
I recently was told by one of the system technicians, 'our system is a Linear Simulcasted in both C4FM (Phase 1) and QCPQSK (Phase 2) that operates dynamically between the two on each RF channel'.
Thanks again...
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