cpunut said:
but if that were the case (too much odorant), why are people smelling it? if they can smell it, doesn't that mean something is leaking? but, maybe that's why I'm not in that line of work.
Northern Virginia Incidents
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but if that were the case (too much odorant), why are people smelling it? if they can smell it, doesn't that mean something is leaking? but, maybe that's why I'm not in that line of work.
Also, what is causing the 'difficulty breathing', 'dizziness', and 'respiratory arrest' calls that are in the same area as the gas leaks?
The Washington Gas spokesperson on the radio is saying that "Due to the high level of odorant, residents are smelling gas from the tiniest of pinhole leaks that they normally wouldn't notice." So, if I'm interpretting what she's says correctly, that means tiny pinhole leaks are normal? If so, wouldn't a tiny pinhole leak in a closed home gradually build up over time and become a timebomb waiting for ignition?
The Washington Gas spokesperson on the radio is saying that "Due to the high level of odorant, residents are smelling gas from the tiniest of pinhole leaks that they normally wouldn't notice." So, if I'm interpretting what she's says correctly, that means tiny pinhole leaks are normal? If so, wouldn't a tiny pinhole leak in a closed home gradually build up over time and become a timebomb waiting for ignition?
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rbenn said:
yep, I agree with you. WTOP's website has an article up now:
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=600&sid=901018
I tried to leave a comment, but they want you to create a login first.
the comment I was going to leave was close to the ones I have left here. I was also going to say that Washington Gas should reimburse the counties of Loudoun and Fairfax. these guys have been working for almost 24 hours now checking homes. Washington Gas needs to send people out with the fire depts to give them some help. this is BS, it's taking away resources for real emergencies (if this is nothing to worry about). also, if it is "pinhole leaks that are normal" why are they still red tagging ovens and water heaters?
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freqhopping
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Definitely more than pin hole leaks. Otherwise I doubt they would be getting the readings they are. I'm sure there are more occurrences, it's just that people are away on vacation.
I think there is excessive pressure. It bleeds off and that's when someone smells it. It sounds like by the time the FD gets there it has already dissipated in many cases. Other times it is a greater release of gas and the FD can get a high reading.
I think there is excessive pressure. It bleeds off and that's when someone smells it. It sounds like by the time the FD gets there it has already dissipated in many cases. Other times it is a greater release of gas and the FD can get a high reading.
about 1/2 way down, natural and propane gas response
http://inetdocs.loudoun.gov/fire/do...rgs_/frgoperation_/currentversions_/index.htm
a lot of other useful info there too
http://inetdocs.loudoun.gov/fire/do...rgs_/frgoperation_/currentversions_/index.htm
a lot of other useful info there too
Just tuning back in after being away from the radio for a few hours. Sounds like they have disbanded the command posts and are back to dispatching gas leak calls as normal.
tim_gladding
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mike_s104 said:but if that were the case (too much odorant), why are people smelling it? if they can smell it, doesn't that mean something is leaking? but, maybe that's why I'm not in that line of work.
Starting at 6pm I spent 13 hours yesterday running from one inside gas leak to another. I was on Engine 6 (for you guys listening on the radio, that was me you were hearing
). We were told, and what I was telling people, was that the gas company had accidentally over-pressurized a 24" main along the Loudoun/Fairfax border and additionally added too much mercaptan (the gas smell). This caused relief valves all over the county to vent tiny amounts of gas, and lots of gas smell.Although I ran to countless homes and businesses I only turned off the gas due to an actual leak at one home, one apartment complex and one business. The tagging was of damaged meters and appliances that did not handle the extra pressure gracefully. Everywhere else there was no detectable gas, just odor. Any gas that had leaked had naturally dissipated by the time we arrived on scene.
Here is Washington Gas' press release:
http://washingtongas.mediaroom.com/
They say "there have been no evacuations" so perhaps someone didn't keep them up to date on what I was running around and doing last night
Tim, seems that they've shut down the command posts, but I'm still hearing a good number of 'inside gas leak' calls coming in.
tim_gladding
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rbenn said:
Yeah I am hearing them. Looks like they're still sending a reduced response though (1 Engine instead of 2 Engines, a Truck and an Ambulance.)
I'm glad Tim was able to give us some more info then we were getting from the news. he also confirmed what we were thinking...that it was more then what Washington as was letting on. typical of a company like that.
tim_gladding
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Glad to be of service
2319 - Ford Taurus 'fully engulfed' at Cascades Parkway & Rt 7. No one in the vehicle (thank goodness). Company 18 responding.
freqhopping
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Working townhouse fire somewhere in the Reston or Herndon area. Been working for a while. In the overhaul stages. Didn't catch on until I heard Loudoun dispatching station fills.
Now a report of a shooting in the area of Willow Bend Ct. in Springfield. Still in the early stages with all units enroute. Caller reported hearing five shots and then someone moaning. TG17136 Mason.
2232- now it's a robbery too. Suspect last seen heading towards the shopping center and Rolling Rd. K9 enroute.
Suspect is described as 25 y/o black male wearing white shirt, black pants, black hat.
2236- Fairfax-1 is now enroute.
2237- Victim will be medevaced. 3 gunshot wounds from a .45- right torso, right leg and left toe.
2242- Fairfax-1 preparing to land at the LZ, the West Springfield PD station.
Now a report of a shooting in the area of Willow Bend Ct. in Springfield. Still in the early stages with all units enroute. Caller reported hearing five shots and then someone moaning. TG17136 Mason.
2232- now it's a robbery too. Suspect last seen heading towards the shopping center and Rolling Rd. K9 enroute.
Suspect is described as 25 y/o black male wearing white shirt, black pants, black hat.
2236- Fairfax-1 is now enroute.
2237- Victim will be medevaced. 3 gunshot wounds from a .45- right torso, right leg and left toe.
2242- Fairfax-1 preparing to land at the LZ, the West Springfield PD station.
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Woodbridge / Stand off
0844 There is some sort of stand off situation on Longview drive in Woodbridge. I just turned it on. I have heard traffic on TAC 2 so far.
0910 attempting contact to subjects cell phone
1000 subject in custody and sweeping the house
0844 There is some sort of stand off situation on Longview drive in Woodbridge. I just turned it on. I have heard traffic on TAC 2 so far.
0910 attempting contact to subjects cell phone
1000 subject in custody and sweeping the house
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2150 - Pedestrian strike (adult female) at Rt 7 & Ashburn Village Blvd. Ops on 6C.
2205 - 2 car accident with single pedestrian strike. Transporting pedestrian to Lansdowne with minor injuries.
2205 - 2 car accident with single pedestrian strike. Transporting pedestrian to Lansdowne with minor injuries.
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beastieboy101
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VSP Pursuit
I came in late to the pursuit but got the following info
VSP began chasing vehicle for not sopping for a traffic stop
Car was heading East on Lee Highway
1602 - I first heard them passing the Sycamore exit
1606 - Lost sight of car at exit 73
1608 - Found car abandoned in a parking lot on Nash St. and Lee Hwy
Fairfax-1 responding
Arlington Co. PD K-9 responding
I came in late to the pursuit but got the following info
VSP began chasing vehicle for not sopping for a traffic stop
Car was heading East on Lee Highway
1602 - I first heard them passing the Sycamore exit
1606 - Lost sight of car at exit 73
1608 - Found car abandoned in a parking lot on Nash St. and Lee Hwy
Fairfax-1 responding
Arlington Co. PD K-9 responding
Shooting in Centreville Area
Shooting in the Centreville area of Fairfax County
13605 S. Range Dr (not sure on the address, couldn't understand the dispatcher)
FCPD Ch 1/8/9 // FCFD Ch 4C
Call reported by an off duty Fairfax County PD officer - adult female appears to have been shot in the head. She is conscious and breathing. She was shot by a child who was playing with a handgun.
Fairfax 1 is landing now for a medevac. LZ @ Centreville HS
2133-Last I heard, Commander 1 and Internal Affairs 7 were marking enroute . . .
Shooting in the Centreville area of Fairfax County
13605 S. Range Dr (not sure on the address, couldn't understand the dispatcher)
FCPD Ch 1/8/9 // FCFD Ch 4C
Call reported by an off duty Fairfax County PD officer - adult female appears to have been shot in the head. She is conscious and breathing. She was shot by a child who was playing with a handgun.
Fairfax 1 is landing now for a medevac. LZ @ Centreville HS
2133-Last I heard, Commander 1 and Internal Affairs 7 were marking enroute . . .
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freqhopping
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Sounds like it could be a wild night in Fairfax County. A short time ago there was foot pursuit of some Hispanic males, robbery suspects, on Ch-6. The search is on and Fairfax-1 has just cleared the hospital from the previous incident. Latest report is they may have located the suspects.
DavidNVA
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I turned on my scanner just as the Medstar chopper was landing to pick up for a gun shot to the head. They had several witnesses that identified the suspect vehicle as a green Chevy Tahoe and with the help of the licence plate number vice setup outside the suspects apartment. Not sure if they ever caught him or not and I'm not able to find anything in the local news. Seems only shootings in Prince Georges County and the District get media attention in this area.
Stuff like this makes me wonder why Prince William County PD don't have their own air support. Seems with all the tax revenue they are bringing in it would not be too much of an issue. It's gotta get old calling in Fairfax County for help from Fairfax One several times a day.
Stuff like this makes me wonder why Prince William County PD don't have their own air support. Seems with all the tax revenue they are bringing in it would not be too much of an issue. It's gotta get old calling in Fairfax County for help from Fairfax One several times a day.