BCD996P2: Not Seeing Talkgroups on BCD996P2

[w0jrm]

Hi All - first post here, didn't see a topic already, apologies if this is a dupe. I have a BCD996P2 that I am programming via ProScan. I have a Radio Reference membership and pulled systems over directly into my scanner as they showed up in search. For some reason I can't get anything in the groups below show up when I scan. They're trunked P25 groups. All of the non-trunked stuff shows up on the display and picks up just fine. Am I doing something wrong or do I just not understand how trunked scanning works?





For reference, here's everything that's programmed in. Other than Alliant, everything else scrolls through on the display.



Thanks!

 

[nessnet]

Bob, does ProScan pull everything from the RR database, including range/lat/long?
I think it does...?

I ask because this sounds like a possible location control issue?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Is (are) the applicable group key(s) (only seeing G-1 in screenshot) turned on for the group(s) you want to hear?

 

[w0jrm]

Is (are) the applicable group key(s) (only seeing G-1 in screenshot) turned on for the group(s) you want to hear?

Well... I'm not sure... all I did was pull the data over and upload it. I'll do some digging in the manual on that. Thanks!

 

[w0jrm]

Bob, does ProScan pull everything from the RR database, including range/lat/long?
I think it does...?

I ask because this sounds like a possible location control issue?

It does.... but I don't recall having programmed *my* location into the radio. Is that something I need to do?

 

[w0jrm]

Ok, so if I press the function button and scroll through available systems to scan, none of the ones under IA Ops (1) or IA Ops (2) show up. Is that normal for trunked systems?

 

[FrensicPic]

Well... I'm not sure... all I did was pull the data over and upload it. I'll do some digging in the manual on that. Thanks!

Each TGID group needs a GQK (group quick key) assigned - that allows you "turn on" that group within the system so you can hear it.

 

[w0jrm]

Each TGID group needs a GQK (group quick key) assigned - that allows you "turn on" that group within the system so you can hear it.

 

[w0jrm]

Ok - so I've assigned GQKs (I think) and uploaded the changes. When I hold the function button to scan through systems, the only one I see in the expanded groups is Centerville:

 

[Nascar18]

I just noticed you don't have ID Scan selected in the system.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Press . (period) and 1 keys to turn on the group key for system '"IA Ops (1)". Additionally you have no frequencies/site programmed for the system entitled "IA Ops (2)"

 

[RMason]

Press . (period) and 1 keys to turn on the group key for system '"IA Ops (1)". Additionally you have no frequencies/site programmed for the system entitled "IA Ops (2)"

You need to have both sites (frequencies) and groups (talk group ids) programmed. Without frequencies, there is nothing to scan…..

 

[w0jrm]

You need to have both sites (frequencies) and groups (talk group ids) programmed. Without frequencies, there is nothing to scan…..

Well, that's what I thought, but when I pull it over it just does the ID's. This is my first venture into TGID scanning so I didn't know if there was something different there. I'll try programming it by hand and see if that works.

 

[w0jrm]

Well, that's what I thought, but when I pull it over it just does the ID's. This is my first venture into TGID scanning so I didn't know if there was something different there. I'll try programming it by hand and see if that works.

So based off this and this I programmed the following. Is this the proper way to input the data?

 

[tvengr]

Each TGID group needs a GQK (group quick key) assigned - that allows you "turn on" that group within the system so you can hear it.

That is incorrect! Any group without a quick key will scan anytime the system is enabled. The quick keys allow you to turn groups on and off. Here is a PDF file which will answer all of your questions about using quick keys:

 

[ProScan]

Well, that's what I thought, but when I pull it over it just does the ID's. This is my first venture into TGID scanning so I didn't know if there was something different there. I'll try programming it by hand and see if that works.

Can you provide the 'IA Ops (2)' RadioReference Database link. The sites should import if they were not unchecked.

 

[ProScan]

It does.... but I don't recall having programmed *my* location into the radio. Is that something I need to do?

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You are correct that the RRDB imports the location data.
No need to do anything. If you don't have a GPS device connected then the scanner is not using location based scanning.

 

[ProScan]

Can you provide the 'IA Ops (2)' RadioReference Database link. The sites should import if they were not unchecked.

Cancel that. I got the system

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

All 85 or so sites imported. You may have clicked the 'Uncheck All Sites' button which is okay but then check at least one site to import.

{edit} To fix the problem with the site/s not in the ProScan DB
1. Go back into the Import RadioReference then login and drill down and select the same system
2. Click the Get Data button
3. When the tree finishes loading then uncheck everything then check only the missing sites
4. Click the Import button
5. Drag & Drop the sites in the newly imported system to the original system that were missing the sites
6. Delete the new system as that was temporary to get the sites

 

[ProScan]

So based off this and this I programmed the following. Is this the proper way to input the data?

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Yes

 

[w0jrm]

Yes

Ok! It's working now after I programmed it by hand, so I must just not have imported something correctly. Thanks a bunch everyone!