BCD325P2/BCD996P2: Nothing to Scan/BCD996P2 after RR import.

[K3MMB]

This maybe the wrong place to post this.

I am trying to program a new BCD996P2 for fire and sheriff in Frederick County Maryland. I am using PROSCAN to manage the scanner.

I import data from the RR database and get information on fire and sheriff. Each item has a talk group associated with it. Upload that to the scanner. The scanner simply returns "nothing to scan."

What am I doing wrong?

Best Regards
Mike

 

[tvengr]

Make sure you are importing the frequencies in the 2 sites.

RFSS	Site	Name	Freqs
1 (1)	001 (1)	Simulcast	851.6125c	851.9125c	853.225	853.475c	853.750	854.9875c	856.1375	856.4875
			857.4875	858.0875	858.4875	859.4875
1 (1)	002 (2)	Brunswick	771.15625	772.03125	772.65625	774.40625c	774.88125c

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Consult wiki below to ensure you have all your bases covered

Nothing to Scan - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Also note that once you get everything situated you may encounter a degree of simulcast distortion on a 996p2 depending on where you're situated relative to two or more towers on the simulcast cell

 

[ve1sef]

Have you assigned group quick key numbers to your talk groups? Are the quick keys been turned on?

 

[K3MMB]

Make sure you are importing the frequencies in the 2 sites.

RFSS	Site	Name	Freqs
1 (1)	001 (1)	Simulcast	851.6125c	851.9125c	853.225	853.475c	853.750	854.9875c	856.1375	856.4875
			857.4875	858.0875	858.4875	859.4875
1 (1)	002 (2)	Brunswick	771.15625	772.03125	772.65625	774.40625c	774.88125c

I Was looking for fire and sheriff. I can get the simulcast into the scanner, and it works. My issue now is Finding the frequencies for Those guys.

Thanks Best Regards

 

[K3MMB]

Have you assigned group quick key numbers to your talk groups? Are the quick keys been turned on?

No, I have not assigned quick keys, and I guess they are not turned on. I will have to wade through the menus to figure that out.

Thanks
Best Regards
Mike

 

[wtp]

if the radio is scrolling "ID SCAN" then hit the function button and the scan button.
it will then show "ID SEARCH' and you should hear everything/everybody.

 

[tvengr]

I Was looking for fire and sheriff. I can get the simulcast into the scanner, and it works. My issue now is Finding the frequencies for Those guys.

What do you mean by getting the simulcast into the scanner? A trunked system must have at least one site within range to receive talkgroups. If you are in Frederick City, you will need to use the Simulcast site. The frequencies in the site are shared by all of the agencies. There is no frequency for a particular agency on a trunked system. There are 4 control channel capable frequencies on the Simulcast site. You should see one of those frequencies on the 3rd line from the bottom on the scanner display when no talkgroup is being received. If you see NFM you are having problems decoding the control channel. That is a typical symptom of simulcast distortion. The control channel capable frequencies are in red. You only need to enter the control channel capable frequencies. All if the frequency info for the voice channels is carried on the control channel.

RFSS	Site	Name	Freqs
1 (1)	001 (1)	Simulcast	851.6125c	851.9125c	853.225	853.475c	853.750	854.9875c	856.1375	856.4875
			857.4875	858.0875	858.4875	859.4875

 

[K3MMB]

What do you mean by getting the simulcast into the scanner? A trunked system must have at least one site within range to receive talkgroups. If you are in Frederick City, you will need to use the Simulcast site. The frequencies in the site are shared by all of the agencies. There is no frequency for a particular agency on a trunked system. There are 4 control channel capable frequencies on the Simulcast site. You should see one of those frequencies on the 3rd line from the bottom on the scanner display when no talkgroup is being received. If you see NFM you are having problems decoding the control channel. That is a typical symptom of simulcast distortion. The control channel capable frequencies are in red. You only need to enter the control channel capable frequencies. All if the frequency info for the voice channels is carried on the control channel.

RFSS	Site	Name	Freqs
1 (1)	001 (1)	Simulcast	851.6125c	851.9125c	853.225	853.475c	853.750	854.9875c	856.1375	856.4875
			857.4875	858.0875	858.4875	859.4875

OK. IT scans, but like said NFM is displayed. Is there a fix?
Best Regards
Mike

 

[wtp]

and now the next problem is simulcast.
it can give you no signal (NFM) to five bars and no audio.
and different things in between.

 

[DJBio]

are you loading ur list with Get Clipboard or logged in to RR in proscan ?

 

[K3MMB]

are you loading ur list with Get Clipboard or logged in to RR in proscan ?

Logged in using proscan and db import

 

[DJBio]

i see there is a alot of DMR in Frederick County Maryland did u do the DMR upgrade

 

[jtwalker]

Are you well within the boundaries of Frederick Co? Of all the counties within 40 miles of my location, Frederick is the only one I can’t get any signal at my house in Adams Co PA.

 

[DJBio]

with alot of DMR in your area i would recommend getting the upgrade and download the attach file adn unzip it then try and load into Proscann and pload to the 996P2
you will have to edit the list as there is alot that are over the limit

 

[DJBio]

is what Proscan is saying

System Businesses Contains 22 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System First Responders Contains 45 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System First Responders Contains 1010 Channels Per Trunking System Exceeded The Limit Of 500
System Joint National C Contains 25 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System Maryland Railroa Contains 22 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System New York (ZNY) A Contains 23 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System Washington (ZDC) Contains 35 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System First Responders Contains 45 Channel Groups Exceeded The Limit Of 20
System First Responders Contains 1010 Channels Per Trunking System Exceeded The Limit Of 500

 

[tvengr]

Here is a Frederick County ProScan file for you to try. You will need just the FredCo. Simulcast site in Frederick. The FredCo Simulcast site is on system quick key 1. The FredCo Brunswick site is on system quick key 2. Pressing 1 on the scanner keypad will toggle the Simulcast site on and off. Pressing 2 will toggle the Brunswick site on and off. If you don't want the services talkgroups, turn off group quick keys 1 & 2. I have a group for Corrections available in case any talkgroups are added to the system in the future. The second attached file will answer all of your questions about using quick keys. Print it out and save it for your reference. Save the first attached file to your computer and extract. Open the extracted file with ProScan. Connect your computer and scanner with the programming cable. Click on Upload to Scanner. Erase any systems currently in the scanner before you start the upload. Quick keys as follows:

SYSTEM QUICK KEYS:
1. FredCo Simulcast (Site)
2. FredCo Brunswick (Site)
GROUP QUICK KEYS:
1. FredCityServices
2. FredCo Schools
2. FredCo Services
3. FredCo Interop
4. FredCo Emerg Ops
4. FredCo Fire/EMS
5. FredCo Fire Misc
6. FredCo EMS/Hosp
7. FredCo Correctns
8. FredCo Sheriff
9. FredCity Police
0. MD State Police
0. State Hwy Admin