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DWSChristy

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We are seeking a skilled and experienced Radio Technicians, Mobile Installers and apprentices to join our team. As a Radio Technician, you will be responsible for installing, maintaining, and troubleshooting two-way radio systems. This role plays a crucial part in ensuring reliable communication for our clients in the public safety and professional services sectors.

We have openings in Washington, Oregon, Idaho ,California and the Netherlands.

To see a list of job opportunities go here - Job Opportunities
 

TampaTyron

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Good luck finding anybody. We are hiring in Utah Arizona, and Texas for all technical positions from noob to experienced and are having a hard time. TT
 

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Good luck finding anybody. We are hiring in Utah Arizona, and Texas for all technical positions from noob to experienced and are having a hard time. TT
A careers/job postings page on the website might help. I'm local and would potentially be interested, but your post is the first I'd heard about it.
 

PACNWDude

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And this is why I, after military and oil industry retirement, returned to plus up my 401k, working in radio/infrastructure. We are also having a problem with finding new talent or even those that would like to make it a career.

There was the initial, "IT can handle the radio system", "farm it out to contractors", and then, oh crap, we need this to be in house and worked by knowledgeable people that want to be here (pay them whatever they want), just get them.

This will get worse in time. And can be a great career for those that choose to go down this route. But, having some IT/computer/router/switch knowledge, or the will to learn will also help. My employer requires a GROL, but for some radio related jobs, now just lists "able to complete a GROL within a year of hiring"....good luck on the search.
 

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...(pay them whatever they want), just get them...good luck on the search.
That is the way tp solve the problem. The pay in the radio/infrastructure field will have to become competitive with the Information Technology pay for similar talent.
 

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I dont think the pay is the biggest factor, I dont think they are "making" radio techs anymore.
What schools actually teach it anymore?
I used to have ex military folk come in looking for a job , but not even that in several years now.
 

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Hit 'Post Reply" too soon...
I think its more of a bigger shop absorbing a smaller one Or "stealing" a tech from another Company which really does not solve the overall priblem or the folk that have been in it forever are getting tired
 

mastr

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I agree that "they are not making radio techs", but that ship has sailed- the days of tech school electronics classes and "1st phone in a week" are gone. I think at least part of the reason for the lack of trainable applicants is that there is more money to be made in similar fields for those who are technically inclined.
 

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I agree that "they are not making radio techs", but that ship has sailed- the days of tech school electronics classes and "1st phone in a week" are gone. I think at least part of the reason for the lack of trainable applicants is that there is more money to be made in similar fields for those who are technically inclined.
We agrees with you. That's why we have partnered with the University of San Diego to create more radio techs. You can find out more about it here. Wireless Communications Technologist Certificate Program
 

DWSChristy

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Good luck finding anybody. We are hiring in Utah Arizona, and Texas for all technical positions from noob to experienced and are having a hard time. TT
Recently we changed the way we advertise and so far it seems to be working. Went from a couple apps a week to over 50. The hardest part is finding where all you radio techs are hiding in the land of the Internets! 😉
 

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lol, I am aware of those Classes of 1st phone in a week...
I was really going further back in time than that.
And I remember an ad for "radio tech" that required a Bachelors Degree and part of job duty was climbing towers...
I laughed at that one.
 

CanesFan95

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We are seeking a skilled and experienced Radio Technicians, Mobile Installers and apprentices to join our team. As a Radio Technician, you will be responsible for installing, maintaining, and troubleshooting two-way radio systems. This role plays a crucial part in ensuring reliable communication for our clients in the public safety and professional services sectors.

We have openings in Washington, Oregon, Idaho ,California and the Netherlands.

To see a list of job opportunities go here - Job Opportunities

$23-$25/hr in CA for experienced hires sounds awfully low.
 

dickie757

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A tech from Day in Bend gave me his old GROL study guide. That gave me the notion that I might be able to make a living at this, instead of throwing money at the hobby. Granted, at the time, I had much more disposable income, but it was an eye opener for sure.
 

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Maybe my So Cal location has a higher cost of living than where these jobs are offered but the pay seems lower than what I would expect for some of the senior positions.
It is. You would be surprised what some companies think "competitive pay and benefits" actually means vs. COL in some areas.

IT: Make 2-2.5X the entry level salary, no musty smelly buildings, no having to clear rats nests of "all else fails" installs, no climbing, no treacherous mountain site roads with ruts bigger than your truck, nice AC inside most of the time, plenty of action to keep you busy.

Is it any wonder where the talent is heading? It's not a good look when an average field tech who does software support at client sites can easily double that rate. Some of the youngsters in our group work for the big players and are trying to get out as fast as they can. I understand a business needs to make money, but if that's what a senior level RF tech is worth, they get what they pay for and can't really complain other jobs paying more lead talented people into other areas.
 

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I think most any good 2-way radio tech with trouble shooting skills and some experience with RF, feedlines and antennas could make it in the satellite broadcast industry as a maintenance tech. The broadcast pay scale seems to be much higher than the 2-way radio industry and when I was interviewing people for broadcast jobs I would loved to have seen some radio techs apply because I can relate to their knowledge base and experience and they could be a good fit. Instead we got mostly the bottom of the barrel, flakey broadcast people who habitually lie on their resumes.

Hey all you good radio techs, storm into your local satellite broadcast facility, fill out an application then tell them you are the guy (or thing) they have been looking for. And tell them I said so. You will be happy with the pay increase.
 

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Understanding RF is almost dead, because LMR is almost dead.

It went from big radios with tiny computers to big computers with rf as an afterthought link. RF is swaptronics of black boxes. Autotune failed? Run it again, then box it up to send to the depot.

I just came out of a government shop. You need to understand IP; bad range? Start replacing stuff until it works right. They didn't know how to pay us because they didn't understand what we did. I am applying for jobs that accept a NABER certificate. NABER hasn't even been around since like 2002. HR has no idea what to even put in the job ads. What I see around my region is that LMR / Public Safety radio tech jobs fall into two buckets; the big bucket is I can install remote starts and locks and light bars oh and radios, too. (usually poorly and with a lot of taps) The other is I sit in a network center and monitor... things.

I went and looked at what a gallon of gas costs, and what rent costs in CA. That seems very very low for a technical job.

OOH! I see some clouds to yell at.
 

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@surfacemount-- ... the "rf being dead because LMR is dead" not 100% correct at least here anyway..BUT, you have brought up the issue in that statement as, just because some "tech" can plug his laptop in at a site and pull alarms and diagnostics...
beacause so few today do not have LMR experience...he (or she or ??) may not have a clue as to what might be going on when it is in fact a RF problem..
Im no super tech by any stretch of imagination..but I do know RF pretty well and have wispered suggestions into the ears of guys at a site that were scratching thier heads, and get asked "how do you know that?"

oh and I think I still have my NABER certificate....lol
 

DWSChristy

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I dont think the pay is the biggest factor, I dont think they are "making" radio techs anymore.
What schools actually teach it anymore?
I used to have ex military folk come in looking for a job , but not even that in several years now.
Check out the UC San Diego. Wireless Communications Technician program. We are hoping to change that. Wireless Communications Technologist Certificate Program
 

DWSChristy

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A tech from Day in Bend gave me his old GROL study guide. That gave me the notion that I might be able to make a living at this, instead of throwing money at the hobby. Granted, at the time, I had much more disposable income, but it was an eye opener for sure.
I'm at the Bend location. Small world! I imagine the tech might have been Michael?? He was an amazing teacher.
 
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