Number one/two/three malefemale ?

[sgfitzs]

All,

I have a dumb question. What does the term "number one" or "number two" male/female mean ? I hear my local police say this all the time but have no clue what it means.

Thanks, Sean

 

[JoeyC]

It refers to RACE. However since you didn't state where you are, and, posted in the wrong forum, we cannot give you an answer to this vague question.

 

[radio10-8]

In Southern Arizona. #1 Hispanic, #2 Indian Native American, #3 Black, #4 Asian and #5 White. or HIBAW is an acronym to remember. But this information can mean something else in a different agency.

 

[kb2vxa]

Hi Sean and all,

Now if it's only 1 and 2 it's White and Black respectively, Hispanics may be one or the other. Population demographics determine how many breakdowns there are and some agencies come right out with it plus a breakdown by name. For example, the NJSP classes two kinds of Asians, one simply "Asian" (Far Eastern) and the other "Asian other" for Middle Eastern or Indian. So far I haven't heard any references to Native American although we have plenty Lenepes and Delawares in New Jersey.

Keep listening, you'll figure it out.

 

[sgfitzs]

Thanks to everyone for the help.

 

[mciupa]

In Southern Arizona. #1 Hispanic, #2 Indian Native American, #3 Black, #4 Asian and #5 White.

Wow , just like a drive-thru combo menu ... :lol:

 

[Andruw]

Around here they just say the race then male or female.

 

[hotdjdave]

Suspect or Victim

If you were in CA (Los Angeles and vicinity), "number one, male/female" would normally mean "suspect number one" or "victim number one" depending on what the conversation was regarding. Race/descent is always described (e.g. Hispanic, Caucasian/White, Asian, Black, etc.).

So if the officer was giving a suspect description of more than one suspect, it would be something like: "number one, male, white, approximately 25 years of age, five foot seven, 190 pounds, brown over brown, wearing... number two, male, black, approximately 27 years of age, five foot nine, 200 pounds, ..."


As a matter of fact, I have never heard of "Number #" being a code for what race a person is!

 

[Astrak]

Thanks to everyone for the help.

what helped?

 

[N_Jay]

If you were in CA (Los Angeles and vicinity), "number one, male/female" would normally mean "suspect number one" or "victim number one" depending on what the conversation was regarding. Race/descent is always described (e.g. Hispanic, Caucasian/White, Asian, Black, etc.).

So if the officer was giving a suspect description of more than one suspect, it would be something like: "number one, male, white, approximately 25 years of age, five foot seven, 190 pounds, brown over brown, wearing... number two, male, black, approximately 27 years of age, five foot nine, 200 pounds, ..."


As a matter of fact, I have never heard of "Number #" being a code for what race a person is!

I have been thinking the same since this thread stared, but since I haven't listened to scanners actively in about 20 years, I figured things changed.

SO, maybe the question is;
Who KNOWS that the code in IN FACT used to indicate race?
Who KNOWS that the code does not?

 

[JoeyC]

I suppose, of course, it depends on which agency. Where I had my scannning roots - PG county MD - they've used the numbering scheme to differentiate race for a very long time.

I used to think it had something to do with being PC when transmitting over the air, but now I don't think thats really the case. In other places I've lived, they use MALE WHITE, BLACK FEMALE or MALE HISPANIC, as it should be (IMO) There shouldn't be a need to be politically correct in law enforcement.

Since I mentioned being PC, my LEAST favorite PC term is African American. Who was it that decided all black people should be given immediate American citizenship with "American" tagged to their description? In these days, I'm surprised someone hasn't decided to give bogus citizenship status to all the millions of illegal immigrants with something as stupid as "Undocumented American". Or maybe they already have...

 

[KB8UYC]

It refers to RACE. However since you didn't state where you are, and, posted in the wrong forum, we cannot give you an answer to this vague question.

Are you kidding me??

I am glad to see that everyone answered his question.........some people I tell ya......


Eric

 

[JoeyC]

Are you kidding me??

I am glad to see that everyone answered his question.........some people I tell ya......


Eric

I answered the question as well as anyone did considering the thread is still in the wrong place and we still don't know the original posters locale.

And your problem with that is?

 

[kb2vxa]

Hi Dave and readers,

"As a matter of fact, I have never heard of "Number #" being a code for what race a person is!"

That's because you live in LACA, not New Jersey. I mentioned previously that for a time police used #1 for White and #2 for Black but what I didn't say is how Blacks raised such a fuss thinking they were being called "second class citizens". (Remember that phrase?) They went "PC" and decided to just say the words, meanwhile the NJSP came under fire for "racial profiling" but that's another silly story. Gee, you might think Al Sharptongue lives in New Jersey!

"...but since I haven't listened to scanners actively in about 20 years, I figured things changed."

That's what you get for spending too much time in La La Land, and we thought you were in N Jay! (;->)

Edited for punctuation.

 

[radio10-8]

One more

In Northern California most agencies will use a letter HMA would be a Hispanic Male Adult. A BFA would be a Black Female Adult. Now to mix it up a little a WJX would be a white juvenile female. Some agencies like to use a specific letter to differenciate between male and female. I have heard "X" or "X-ray" used quite often.

 

[N_Jay]

"...but since I haven't listened to scanners actively in about 20 years, I figured things changed."

That's what you get for spending too much time in La La Land, and we thought you were in N Jay! (;->)

Edited for punctuation.

LOL, LA, NJ?

Been there don't live there.

 

[JoeyC]

I mentioned previously that for a time police used #1 for White and #2 for Black but what I didn't say is how Blacks raised such a fuss thinking they were being called "second class citizens". (Remember that phrase?) They went "PC" and decided to just say the words, meanwhile the NJSP came under fire for "racial profiling" but that's another silly story. Gee, you might think Al Sharptongue lives in New Jersey!

Interesting. In MD #1 is black and #2 white