NV - 2020 BLM Radio Channel Loads

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Lets list all the BLM channel loads for Nevada in this 1 thread. Info is from 2020 official document found in the Internet. Scroll down thru this thread for any additions or corrections If I do not list any PL or NAC, then the document is not showing any PL or NAC for the channel..

First Up - Elko BLM District

Ch 1 - Elko Local - 171.5375 - mobiles TX and RX PL 110.9

Ch 2 - BLM Knoll - 171.5375 R - 163.575 input

Ch 2 to Ch 9 all use the same repeater pair - there are different input PLs for each site

Ch 3 - BLM Spruce

Ch 4 - BLM Jacks

Ch 5 - BLM Tenabo

Ch 6 - BLM Delano

Ch 7 - BLM Midas

Ch 8 - BLM Swales

Ch 9 - BLM Pinion

Ch 10 - NDF Local - 158.895 - mobiles TX PL 131.8

Ch 11 - NDF Red - 159.345

Ch 12 - Gov Com 1 - 163.10

Ch 13 - Gov Com 2 - 168.35

Ch 14 - P A/G 49 - 168.0375

Ch 15 - S A/G 8 - 166.875

Ch 16 - BLM SOA - 171.675 - mobiles TX and RX 114.8

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abbreviations

TX = transmit

RX = receive

R = repeater output channel = the channel the signal comes out of the repeater on

SOA = scene of action

NDF = Nevada Division of Forestry

P A/G = primary air to ground

Gov Com = federal government common channels - shared nationwide

S A/G = secondary air to ground

BLM = Bureau of Land Management - part of the Department of Interior - the federal rangeland fire department

"Local" = here it seems that Local is a direct channel for field unit to dispatcher communications = a non repeaterized channel that can be used to reach a dispatcher

I think the only channels that can used to reach a dispatcher in this channel load are the 'repeater' channels and the 'Local' channels
 

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Winnemucca BLM District - 2020 radio channels

Ch 1 - WD Rptr - Wmca Mtn - 172.575 R - PL 103.5 - 164.725 in

Ch 2 - FS Rptr - Buckskin - 170.525 R - (PL 0.0) - 164.1875 in

Ch 3 - WD Rptr - Alta - 173.825 R - 166.2375 in

Ch 4 - WD Rptr - Gerlach - 173.825 R - PL 103.5

Ch 5 - WD Rptr - Star - 172.575 R - PL 103.5

Ch 6 - WD Rptr - Goosey - 172.575 R - PL 103.5

Ch 7 - WD Rptr - New York - 172.575 R - PL 103.5

Ch 8 - WD Rptr - Sonoma - 173.825 R - PL 103.5

Ch 9 - BLM Rptr - Fox - 172.575 R - PL 103.5

Ch 10 - Humboldt Rpt - 153.77 R - NAC 7F3 - 154.415 in

Ch 11 - Pershing Fire M.A. - 154.965 - NAC 167 TX and RX

Ch 12 - Gov Com 1 - 163.10

Ch 13 - Gov Com 2 - 168.35

Ch 14 - Wmca - P A/G 53 - 168.4875

Ch 15 - Wmca / Ely - S A/G 6 - 166.80

Ch 16 - BLM - SOA - 171.675 - PL 114.8

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abbreviations

WD = apparently Winnemucca District

Rptr = repeater

FS = forest service

M.A. = apparently is mutual aid

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Notes

Added (PL0.0) notation on Ch 2 just to be clear that no output PL is listed

Not sure why many repeaters use same PL on output

Each repeater has a unique PL on the input - or to use California MACS terminology - OST on input - 'operator selected tone'

On Ch 1 thru Ch 9 - there are 3 repeater pairs - 172.575 R - 164.725 in - 170.525 R - 164.1875 in - 173.825 R - 166.2375 in - I didnt list the input every time because booring

Not sure why Ch 9 is listed as 'BLM' repeater instead of *WD* repeater - maybe it is located outside the district boundaries or is shared with another district or is controlled by a different dispatch center

Ch 10 is spelled Rpt vs RPTR - ???? - just saying

Document uses C.G. in place of PL - Channel Guard vs Private Line - iirc that is Motorola terminology vs GE terminology for CTCSS
 
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BLM Carson City District - 2020 channels from Las Vegas area document

CH 1 - Local - 169.9875 - PL 146.2 TX and RX

CH 2 - Fairview - 169.9875 R - CG 146.2 - 162.2375 input

Ch 3 thru Ch 6 are same repeater pair and output PL as Ch 2 - each site has a different PL on input - (so its OST on the input as is typical across the western USA for wildfire repeaters)

Ch 3 - Corey Peak

Ch 4 - Ft Sage

Ch 5 - McClellan

Ch 6 - Virginia Pk

Ch 7 - NDF Eagle - 158.895 R - 156.075 input - mobiles TX PL but RX CSQ (PL 0.0)

Ch 8 - SOA Rptr - 171.675 R - PL 0.0 out - 168.225 in with PL

Ch 9 - Gov Com 1 - 163.10

Ch 10 - Gov Com 2 - 168.35

Ch 11 - BLM NV TAC 1 - 169.4375 - NAC 47C on output and input

Ch 12 - BLM NV TAC 2 - 164.475 - PL 114.8 on RX and TX

Ch 13 - BLM NV TAC 3 - 172.75 - PL 114.8 on RX and TX

Ch 14 - P A/G 51 - 168.3125 - no PL

Ch 15 - S A/G 8 - 166.875 - no pL

Ch 16 - BLM SOA - 171.675 - mobiles TX and RX PL 114.8


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scroll up thru thread for abbreviations

scroll down for corrections and additions

The SOA Rptr output channel is the same as Ch 16 - I think that PaysonScanner already mentioned that but light just dawned here

Does anyone know if Ch 1 is used for mobile to dispatcher comms? Does the dispatcher have access to more than 1 base station on Ch 1? If the dispatcher just has 1 base station on Ch 1 - I could see their SOP being - use Ch 1 when near the dispatch office in Carson City area - otherwise use the repeaters when attempting to reach a dispatcher from the outlying areas
 

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I don't understand the point of this thread
He is listing the frequency load shown on a 2020 document, which is outstanding information. Rather than post the link, which can result in the link being removed by agencies, he has wisely chosen to post what he found. I appreciate this thread and the others he is posting. I don't understand why you don't.
 

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I do note one statement you made above. "BLM = Bureau of Land Management - part of the Department of Interior - the federal rangeland fire department." It is much more than that, they have a full range of resources to manage, fire and grazing is not the heart of the agency. I have this attitude because I've hiked and camped on BLM managed land in most of the western states. Some of the features they manage are world famous. One is "The Wave" that is so popular the BLM has found it necessary to limit the permits using a same day, in person lottery system. I've been in there twice, once with my family when I was a teenager and once with late Hubby. Late Hubby and I also hiked nearly the entire length of the Escalante River, a fantastic experience, part of the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, BLM administered and part in the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, NPS administered. There are more than rangeland fuels on BLM lands and they are a full partner in the large organization of managing wildland fires in the U.S.
 

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2020 radio freq list for Battle Mountain area BLM in Nevada - info from freq list for Las Vegas NV area wildfire mobile radios

171.725 R - 164.8375 input - repeaters at - Lewis + Prospect + Calaghan + Warm Springs + Mohawk + Sawtooth - (I assume those are all mountain tops)

171.725 - simplex - TX + RX - with PL 100.0 on TX and RX also - "Booker Local" - (I assume this is a base station near the Dispatch Office)

173.775 R - 165.75 input - TNF - (Toiyabe Humboldt Natl Forest) - repeaters at Bald + Austin + Brock + Bunker + Jefferson + Mahogany

167.525 - Primary air to ground (A/G 15)

166.6375 - 2ndary air to ground (A/G 2)

BLM SOA - 171.675 - mobiles TX and RX PL 114.8 - (SOA = scene of action = short range fireground comms)
 

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BLM 2020 Las Vegas District

Ch 1 - "Vegas BLM Local" - 173.05 - CG 114.8

Ch 2 - "Vegas BLM Hayford" - 173.05 R - PL 114.8 - 164.475 in

Ch 3 thru Ch 8 use same freqs and output PL as Ch 2

Ch 3 - Virgin

Ch 4 - Xmas

Ch 5 - Potosi

Ch 6 - Wilson AZ

Ch 7 - West Mtn

Ch 8 - Split Ridge

Ch 9 - "Vegas BLM - Red Rock" - 172.525 R - PL 114.8 - 165.2375 in

Ch 10 - "Forest Service Angel" - 172.275 R - 164.50 in

Ch 10 + 11 + 12 all use the same repeater pair - all mobiles RX PL 0.0 / CSQ - so it is not obvious from the document whether or not the repeaters transmit a PL/CG/CTCSS

Ch 11 - "Forest Service Charles"

Ch 12 - "Forest Service Potosi"

Ch 13 - "Forest Service SOA" - 168.775 - PL 0.0 RX + TX

Ch 14 - "Vegas BLM - P - A/G 23" - 166.7625 - PL 0.0 RX + TX - (primary air to ground)

Ch 15 - "Vegas B:M - S - A/G 8" - 166.875 - PL 0.0 RX + TX - (secondary air to ground)

Ch 16 - "NV BLM SOA" - 171.675 - PL 114.8 RX + TX

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info in quotation marks is the channel name

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Fire Units

Chf 5900 - BLM FMO - (fire management officer) - the top dog

DV 5901 - BLM AFMO - assistant fire management officer - 2nd top dog - probably verbalized as "Division 5901" on the radio

BC 5902 - BLM FOS - maybe fire staff officer - "battalion chief"

BC 5903 - BLM AFOS - assistant fire staff officer

5905 - BLM Fuels Specialist - (probably concentrates on controlled burns etc)

5908 - BLM Fuels Tech

ENV 18 - USAF Fuels Tech - (perhaps BLM does wildland fire control on USAF base)

Div 5 - USFS FMO

BC 51 - USFS AFMO

BC 52 - USFS FOS

BC 53 - USFS Fuels AFMO

531 - USFS Fuels Tech

DV 7301 - NPS AFMO - National Park Service Assistant Fire Management Officer - (top dog or maybe 2nd top dog for the NPS wildfire organization)

DV 7302 - NPS Fuels Specialist

8200 - FWS FMO

8201 - FWS AFMO

8202 - FWS FOS

?? - BIA FMO

DIV 53 - NDF FMO - Nevada Division of Forestry Fire Mgmt Officer - (state agency)

BLM Prevention - Patrol Techs 751 and 753 - Prevention Tech 754 - (751 and 753 might be type 7 engines - pickup trucks with 50 gallons of water)

Vegas Valley Hand Crew - 20 hand crew members

Las Vegas Heltack - ride on helo - Manager + 2 Asst Managers + 2 Squad Leaders + 2 Lead Firefighters + ?

Pahrump - BLM Engine 5341

Red Rock - BLM Engines 5343, 5645, 5646 - first might be type 3 with 500 gallons water - others might be type 6 with 300 gallons water

Logandale - BLM Engines 5342 and 4441

Cold Creek - USFS Eng 451
 
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Should this info just be submitted to the database? There's no real "discussion" here

He is listing the frequency load shown on a 2020 document, which is outstanding information. Rather than post the link, which can result in the link being removed by agencies, he has wisely chosen to post what he found. I appreciate this thread and the others he is posting. I don't understand why you don't.
 

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complete list of Las Vegas fire units - got timed out


Fire Units

Chf 5900 - BLM FMO - (fire management officer) - the top dog

DV 5901 - BLM AFMO - assistant fire management officer - 2nd top dog - probably verbalized as "Division 5901" on the radio

BC 5902 - BLM FOS - maybe fire staff officer - "battalion chief"

BC 5903 - BLM AFOS - assistant fire staff officer

5905 - BLM Fuels Specialist - (probably concentrates on controlled burns etc)

5908 - BLM Fuels Tech

ENV 18 - USAF Fuels Tech - (perhaps BLM does wildland fire control on USAF base)

Div 5 - USFS FMO

BC 51 - USFS AFMO

BC 52 - USFS FOS

BC 53 - USFS Fuels AFMO

531 - USFS Fuels Tech

DV 7301 - NPS AFMO - National Park Service Assistant Fire Management Officer - (top dog or maybe 2nd top dog for the NPS wildfire organization)

DV 7302 - NPS Fuels Specialist

8200 - FWS FMO

8201 - FWS AFMO

8202 - FWS FOS

?? - BIA FMO

DIV 53 - NDF FMO - Nevada Division of Forestry Fire Mgmt Officer - (state agency)

BLM Prevention - Patrol Techs 751 and 753 - Prevention Tech 754 - (751 and 753 might be type 7 engines - pickup trucks with 50 gallons of water)

Vegas Valley Hand Crew - 20 hand crew members

Las Vegas Heltack - ride on helo - Manager + 2 Asst Managers + 2 Squad Leaders + 2 Lead Firefighters + ?

Pahrump - BLM Engine 5341

Red Rock - BLM Engines 5343, 5645, 5646 - first might be type 3 with 500 gallons water - others might be type 6 with 300 gallons water

Logandale - BLM Engines 5342 and 4441

Cold Creek - USFS Eng 451

Kyle - USFS Engines 452 + 453

Mtn Springs - USFS Eng 454

Boulder City - NPS Eng 7331 + Super Six Module 7361 - maybe type 3 engine plus type 6 engine with extra staffing - ???

Corn Creek - FWS Eng 8263 - US Fish and Wildlife Service

North Las Vegas / Pahrump - NDF Eng 5323 + Eng 5361

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nominally the fire engines are staffed daytimes during the summer - staffing ranges from 2 firefighters per engine to maybe 5 on the type 3 engines - the NDF engines show just 1 captain each - but they might be supplemented by parttime firefighters in the summer
 

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local people can confirm and add to database
OK, I see that there's more than frequencies, but this really seems like it is info more suited to the database (frequencies) and the Wiki (logistical info.) The Wiki can be updated by locals and provide a smoother interface. The locals can also submit to the database with updates/corrections. If it isn't in the database, relying on others to do it based off of a forum post, they may never get entered.
 

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Whats the big deal, are you a mod? I don't understand the issue with this thread - the database doesn't let you post anything that isn't "verified," and the wiki is not a place where someone can respond and coordinate in verifying things. If they want to keep the database so strict, then I don't understand, in any way, why I always see people complaining about confirmation threads when the mods have no issue with it. Just because you do not feel it is a "discussion", yet, doesn't mean the next post won't start one over the identity of one of these frequencies.

For example, I have 48 TGs that aren't in the DB for a single local system (public safety). I can't submit them because they aren't verified.
Total, I have over 200 TGs for multiple systems as well as two whole systems that aren't in the database - the easy ones I submit - but the vast majority will never be submitted because, unless there are threads like this where it can be a team effort to identify, I am not going to go through each and every TG myself to submit to a database, when I can just keep them on my own and share them with local people. Oh, and I made a wiki page - I haven't seen a single entry/edit on it - so that's a joke.

If you keep telling people what to do, when you have no authority to do so, all you're going to do is cause people to not submit to the database at all. Relax and let the mods do their work. If your opinion was wanted, you would be asked.
 

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A discussion thread locks after a certain amount of time without activity, so once this goes dormant, people will not be able to respond and coordinate.

I'm not telling him what to do. As a forum owner myself, I have seen the issues that arise when items like this are posted in this manner and I was hoping to save the poster, who is local to me and I have interacted with many times here and on other boards, frustration in trying to get this information out there.

I'm sorry about your Wiki page not getting updated. Has there been additional information added by you? Is the information something that needed to be updated? If the info is good, there would be no need to update it, but it is probably providing good info to people who are viewing it. I updated a Wiki page this morning, so I know there are pages that do get interaction.
 

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A discussion thread locks after a certain amount of time without activity, so once this goes dormant, people will not be able to respond and coordinate.

I'm not telling him what to do. As a forum owner myself, I have seen the issues that arise when items like this are posted in this manner and I was hoping to save the poster, who is local to me and I have interacted with many times here and on other boards, frustration in trying to get this information out there.

I'm sorry about your Wiki page not getting updated. Has there been additional information added by you? Is the information something that needed to be updated? If the info is good, there would be no need to update it, but it is probably providing good info to people who are viewing it. I updated a Wiki page this morning, so I know there are pages that do get interaction.
Yes, but that is after a period of dormancy months from now, and not now - and people can still get the info even if locked.
As a forum owner then, you understand that forum traffic is often much higher than wiki traffic, and provides a direct line of communication, that everyone can see.
If you can tell me what kind of issues can arise from someone posting something presumptive, and it is something legitimate, then fine - but I can't think of one. I don't think the fact that this thread will be locked in a few months is an issue - it's still accessible information that can be used, copied and pasted, and submitted to other places.

The reason I posted my initial response is because I see this a lot and I disagree with it because it discourages people from sharing information at all. I am sure that isn't your intended purpose, but it's an outcome of criticizing posts - people just say, "fine, then I'll keep it to myself, screw this."
In theory, the wiki is awesome, and for some places, it works, but for most places, nobody checks the thing at all, nor cares about it - they check the forums. Now, I agree that this stuff should be posted in the wiki, but not exclusively - I think posting this stuff in the wiki, while simultaneously having a conversation about the material here, is perfect. Obviously, we're all entitled to our opinions, and that is all they are.
 

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2020 freq list for Ely BLM

Ch 1 - "Ely N" - 169.775 - PL 123.0 TX and RX

Ch 2 - "Bald" - 169.775 R - PL 123.0 - 162.1625 input

Ch 3, 4, 5, and 6 are same repeater pair with same output PL as Ch 2

Ch 3 - N Irish

Ch 4 - Prospect

Ch 5 - Kerns

Ch 6 - Ward

Ch 7 - "Ely S" - 170.025 - PL 123.0 TX and RX

Ch 8 - "Ella" - 170.025 R - PL 123.0 - 166.375 input

Ch 9, 10, 11, 12 are the same reepater pair as Ch 8 - with same PL on output

Ch 9 - S. Wilson

Ch 10 - S. Irish

Ch 11 - West Mtn

Ch 12 - Mt Home

Ch 13 - Gov Com 2 - 168.35

Ch 14 - "P A/G 43" - 167.60 - PL 0.0

Ch 15 - "S A/G 6" - 166.80 - PL 0.0

Ch 16 - "BLM SOA" - 171.675 - PL 114.8 RX and TX

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notes

this is apparently the channel programming info for the field units - it is not the channel programming for the repeaters / FB2s

apparently Ely has a South Net and a North Net

there could be more repeaters and channels in use on the Ely District - these are the channels that are apparently programmed into the Las Vegas area mobiles for their "Ely" zone/bank

I think this is a wrap for Nevada BLM

To see realtime listing of the Nevada wildfire units - go to WildWeb - scroll down to a NV entry - then select Resources
 
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prcguy - I just see CA CDD listed in this document - maybe I already posted that somewhere - let me do it again - I will do it here in the Federal Monitoring Forum
 
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