Thanks for looking at that. Very strange.
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NX-1300 K2 and NX-3300 NXDN compatibility?
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So you have a NXDN conventional repeater (which?) and NX-1300NUK handhelds that all work happily together, and you're trying to add an NX-3300K, right. The NX-3K hears fine but the repeater and the NX-1K don't hear it. Right?
What firmware version in the NX-1K and NX-3K radios? Want to PM me the link to the codeplugs?
What firmware version in the NX-1K and NX-3K radios? Want to PM me the link to the codeplugs?
All correct. The 3300 is on firmware K3.20 and the 1300's are on N2.30. PM is in coming.
I just had time for a quick look, but see no GIDs defined (or sent) in either codeplug. I'd suggest updating the NX-3300K2 firmware to K4.23 (you need KPG-D3N v4.00 or later). Just a guess, but there were issues on DMR systems without groups, so maybe there was a problem in that fairly old firmware (compared with the NX-1K's fairly new K2.30) in the same scenario on NXDN.
Oof, I didn't realize it was out of date. Good idea. What's the best place to find the latest firmware?
Today I learned that you can totally just call Kenwood support and get it while you wait on the line. The firmware and the flashing program. Took like 5min.
Didn't fix the problem though.
Didn't fix the problem though.
Coming to the party a little late, you state the problem did not get corrected.
(this may be a rehash / refresher for most of you, sorry.)
One question remains not answered, what is the repeater model. Not that it makes or breaks the thread, but I'd be interested also.
Thinking out loud, some people goes as far as OFFSET RAN CODES in ENCODE and DECODE. So the question remains, what repeater is being used.
NXR-810, does not have esn validation. Only in a trunked system can this be used. HOWEVER!!!!!
You can have UID List OR Group ID list for a tighter anchor chain, when it is networked.
NOTE: This only works with a networked multi-site function, as I have tested it locally and radio traffic still passes locally.
The NXR-1000 is GUI based, and I do not have one on my desk to screenshot it for reference.
NOW the meat of this post.
NX1300, 3300, and my 5300, all communicate simplex every which way I could thing of except 1 item, audio settings.
Just to clarify, nx3300 talks but 1300 does not hear from it, but green light shows.
Are you seeing ANYTHING remotely similar to the above photo?
Optional Signaling, Ran, or RAN & OPT Signal?
NX-3xXX
I will check back later on and see what you have @oniell121
Hey, I've been out of town and away from this frustrating project. I'll check what model of repeater I inherited when I get back.
You are more than welcome to contact me by email.
Ok everyone. Back to the land of this problem.
The good-ish news, I have a probably reason: there is something with this original radio that is wrong. I, just today, bought another NX-3300 to completely remove the original radio from the mix. I wrote the same codeplug to the new 3300 and...it works fine. The two NX-3300's do not speak to one another. The original 3300 decodes fine, as always, but it's encoding of NXDN AND DMR, as it turns out, fails to another kenwood. As I've mentioned before, DSD+ decodes it fine, but NOT the 1300 or my new 3300.
So, why? The radio seems to function just fine on analog, but something in the way the original 3300 encodes digital signals is borked. I'll be at the site with the repeater later and will verify it works there, but I feel hopeful.
Side bar: We have a NXR-1800 just to round out the discussion.
The good-ish news, I have a probably reason: there is something with this original radio that is wrong. I, just today, bought another NX-3300 to completely remove the original radio from the mix. I wrote the same codeplug to the new 3300 and...it works fine. The two NX-3300's do not speak to one another. The original 3300 decodes fine, as always, but it's encoding of NXDN AND DMR, as it turns out, fails to another kenwood. As I've mentioned before, DSD+ decodes it fine, but NOT the 1300 or my new 3300.
So, why? The radio seems to function just fine on analog, but something in the way the original 3300 encodes digital signals is borked. I'll be at the site with the repeater later and will verify it works there, but I feel hopeful.
Side bar: We have a NXR-1800 just to round out the discussion.
mmckenna
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I think the original NX-3300 needs an alignment. There's different settings for NXDN deviation than analog, so that could explain why it works on analog but not digital.
If you were local, I have a Viavi 8800SX with the autotest feature for these radios that would put it back to factory spec's in a few minutes. Unless it was an actual hardware issue.
Find a Kenwood dealer and pay the ~$100 bucks to have them do it for you.
If you were local, I have a Viavi 8800SX with the autotest feature for these radios that would put it back to factory spec's in a few minutes. Unless it was an actual hardware issue.
Find a Kenwood dealer and pay the ~$100 bucks to have them do it for you.
mmckenna
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I've got 3 of those at a remote site. Nice little repeaters.
Yeah, I think you're right. Kenwood's website shows no dealers near me and those that seem to be via google search aren't returning my calls or emails. Haha, sigh.
Unless something changed, Kenwood's website shows Manufacturer's Reps, who you're expected to contact for a referral to a dealer. I can't imagine there not being at least one dealer in the ABQ area.
I came to the same conclusion about the 3300 likely needing alignment.
I came to the same conclusion about the 3300 likely needing alignment.
Yeah, I've found several online that claim to be Kenwood dealers. Kenwood just doesn't know about them on their dealer search on their website. Now I gotta get someone to call me back.
Yea, Kenwood only lists their manufacturer reps, then the MR is supposed to connect you to a local authorized dealer. A quick google search for NM Kenwood Dealer pops Route 66 Radio, actually in Albuquerque, I'd start there.
I gotcha. Thanks for that! I didn't realize that's what they were telling me. I have calls and emails out to 3 here ABQ that google listed to me. We'll see who gets back first.
I don't know why they use this model, and proximity search doesn't make sense, since the question it should answer is "who is the rep for my area?". The rep you want to talk to is Aurora. They should be able to refer you to a local dealer.
Thanks!
I’ve worked with two in abq and had decent luck. One was much more responsive to me, who is fairly small fry. Good luck.
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