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Hi,

I have found that last night and this morning, A TON of morse code has been used on FRS and GMRS. Has anyone else in the NYC area heard this?
 

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Also, it is for certain NOT a repeater IDing itself. These are super long messages.
 

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It was numerous on numerous frequencies, but I decoded it and found out it was someone trying to make morse code contact.
 

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It was numerous on numerous frequencies, but I decoded it and found out it was someone trying to make morse code contact.

Were you able to understand the message ?

I only ask, and not looking for a political debate here, but only ask because I recently had the opportunity to read a security briefing that mentioned some of the "peaceful protests" that have been going on around the country have been coordinated via 2 way radios, many using CCR and operating on whatever frequencies they feel like, including GMRS frequencies.

The document mentioned that the "peaceful protesters" were rather smart in their operations, in some locations it is believed they "hijacked" businesses legitimate repeaters and used them to coordinate the "peaceful protests".

In addition, it is believed while generally the people just talked in coded messages in others areas in some areas messages were being shared by morse code. Finally, I've been told at one site, an individual was arrested with a CCR walkie talkie that was capable of basic encryption.

So I guess my point to all of us is, if ya hear something that doesn't sound right, pay attention and say something.
 

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CW isn't illegal on GMRS, though it's incredibly rude to blast it over someone's voice conversation. Probably someone plugged a radio up to fldigi and is mucking about...
 

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CW isn't illegal on GMRS, though it's incredibly rude to blast it over someone's voice conversation. Probably someone plugged a radio up to fldigi and is mucking about...
Sometimes they can be rude, but this duo was not. They went on the least used frequency in my area and asked if it was in use. Then they proceeded.
 

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I've looked at this thread several times, and everytime I go by it I read it wrong. In my primarily fire-buff, public safety based radio world, I read it as NYC Citywide on GMRS and I wonder if it's police, fire or EMS citywide and click on the link to see, only to realize after I click that it;s the same article....well played OP
 

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I've looked at this thread several times, and everytime I go by it I read it wrong. In my primarily fire-buff, public safety based radio world, I read it as NYC Citywide on GMRS and I wonder if it's police, fire or EMS citywide and click on the link to see, only to realize after I click that it;s the same article....well played OP
No clue what you mean, but okay! In the NYC area you may encounter police/fire/EMS on GMRS frequencies, as the Jersey City departments use GMRS repeaters.
 

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No clue what you mean, but okay! In the NYC area you may encounter police/fire/EMS on GMRS frequencies, as the Jersey City departments use GMRS repeaters.
No, they do not. 460.600 and 460.550 are NOT GMRS frequencies.....also, they are about to go to full time encryption on their trunked system.

CW is the NYPD/FDNY/FDNY*EMS abbreviation for the Citywide frequencies
 

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Alright, well I have heard them on there, but maybe you are correct.
I can’t say for certain, but I’m not sure how licensing would work for public safety on GMRS.
 

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I can't speak to your specific situation, however while still living in NJ, near PA, there was one large City that when it switched from a conventional UHF radio system to a 800 mhz trunking system it reprogramed one of it's repeater systems to operate on a GMRS frequency.

I have no official knowledge if the City Administration sanctioned this or not, I was led to believe they had no idea, the City's Communication's Bureau just left one of the old repeater systems in place. A member of the Communications Bureau secured an FCC GMRS License, they basically did everything legit. The original intention was not to be used for on duty communications and the majority of the communications are personal, however I would occasionally, especially at night, hear what sounded like on duty, work related, communications. Not often and I'm sure not officially authorized, but it happened.

Many of the Police Officers and Firefighters were able to get great deals on used equipment that Motorola was taking "in trade"from the City.

Point being, you may have heard what sounds like official communications, but maybe it was something similar to what happened near me. I could always tell the difference between the families and the off duty Police & Fire people by the way they conducted themselves on the radio.
 
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