I don't think they really have a choice, By January of 2013 every one on VHF and UHF (excluding Ham service, and I think GMRS) has to be Narrowband. They wouldn't have to change freqs they would just have to make sure all their radios are Narrowband compliant meaning witch all the sabers are going to be taking out of service, and making sure the repeaters are NB compliant and just having everything switch from 25,20 to 12.5 bandwith. Within the last couple of years they have been buying a bunch of Vertex portables VX-800's for detectives I believe and VX530's for uniformed officers.Last thing in the news was that they didn't want to switch to narrow band
Those frequencies all fall under WNNM915, which is a statewide 800 MHz conventional license for NYS.Since the the new radios have been in use in my area (Broome/Tioga/Chenango Counties) I've been hearing them using the old 'Special Detail' frequencies 'apparently' for the in-car repeater. I hadn't mentioned it sooner because I wanted to verify what I was hearing.
The active frequencies I've heard so far: (listed in order of most active)
So, if we're holding to the old 90.305 locations, how did Nassau County end up with a Channel 19 trunked system? Okay, maybe my thousands of agencies is a bit hyperbolic, but there are a number of agenices that have no resources to expand capacity or build out. Economics will catch up and regionalization will release some of those resources without NYC, but a "give back" should be a stipulation of a waiver grant. And, all those subscriber units, repeaters, and voting receivers are already narrowband capable. The only limitation would be the expense of labor and logistics.Thousands of agencies? What thousands, there might be 100 if that many that could use any T-band frequencies (50 mi max from Columbus circle only). Keep dreaming, NYC will never give up any frequency it doesn't have to, and you can be rest assured NYC will get a waiver, if not from the FCC it will come outright from Congress, just as the TV channel 16 came from.
I also don't think there are any analog Sabers left out there, havn't seen one for years except as a desk queen monitor.
Before Channel 16 was waivered for NYC, the waivers for Channel 19 use through waiving 90.305 began in 1994 with the former NJ APCO guy who worked as a communications engineer for the NJSP. We started to see the first systems in 1995; these systems were given WIL/WIM callsigns.There is a push to make TV channels 14 through 22 public safety frequencies. This is a result of a number of things that have happened over the last 10 years. I believe that Wayne New Jersey got frequencies in the CH19 or 20 band, and this was a result of doing what NYC did, they went to DC with a lot of lawyers and representatives and basically got Congress to free up those channels. Once NYC and Wayne got their allocations, the flood gates were open. South New Jersey got allocations for their trunking systems, Penn did too, but at a price TV interference when the band opens. If you want to pay for it, and there are a lot of agencies that are too cheap to do it, you can get TV channels allocations. Even bussiness band has gotten allocations outside the 50 mi radius of NYC, I have gotten them too. So there are enough channels to go around, IF you want to pay for them. Instead everybody including the co-ordinators wants NYC splinters. I don't see it as a fix for those that want additional channels. Let them go the route that a lot of agencies did, including Suffolk County, and pay for the coordination and the waivers required.