fnnm1062
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I am hearing West Bloomfield Twp PD doing a bunch of testing, on their UHF freqs, I think they are working with a patch right now between M/A Com and their current system.
Oakland County M/A-COM OpenSky TRS
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I,ve been hearing some testing today also it seems like there doing more intensive tests with a couple of units on the M/A com patch.
If and when they get it working I hope the system lives up to expectations,they have actually been testing for the last 2 years, heard a test to the dispatcher yesterday on the Opensky patch and the unit was so garbled the dispatcher asked if he could call in on a landline or perhaps using a tin can and strings may work!
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I have seen the test vehicles driving around the county doing range testing for Open Sky. There were a few GMC Astro vans driving down Dixie Highway. They have 2 black 800MHz antennas on the roof, Oakland County plastered on the side and stickers in the back window that read CLEMIS. At least OCSD is still on the Moto TRS.
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Royal Oak Police
Does anyone know if Royal Oak police was recently testing on Open Sky and were patching to 155.010? Because for a few days last week on 155.010 every transmission sounded like the person was talking in a tunnel. Now their transmissions are back to normal sounding.
Does anyone know if Royal Oak police was recently testing on Open Sky and were patching to 155.010? Because for a few days last week on 155.010 every transmission sounded like the person was talking in a tunnel. Now their transmissions are back to normal sounding.
That sounded like a repeater problem to me.
Glad someone else heard it. Thought my old vhf rig here was dying
Glad someone else heard it. Thought my old vhf rig here was dying
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Royal Oak has been simulcasting on 155.010 and OpenSKY and has been for over a year now. The distortions you heard were unrelated to the OpenSKY system.
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I didn't think it was a joke but considering the date I had to ask. That system is the April Fools day joke that lasts all year long.
2013?!? WOW, this system is a joke. They woulda been better off joining MPSCS years ago... At least that's operational, in full. I bet in 2013, theyll say, "Well, maybe 2015, there are still a few kinks to work out."
Can someone post link to tis I must be having a brain fart. Cant find it Thanks
Its a news item in the database for the Oakland County Clemis System but this is what we're discussing.
Latest News Update Posted on 2009-04-01 17:08:21
The ongoing saga continues with the OakWin (CLEMIS) System. The system has proven so unreliable at on-scene emergencies that fire departments using this TRS, are reverting to conventional ITAC channels for direct fireground operations. Moreover, it also appears that several agencies are strongly entertaining the thought of reverting back to their old VHF/UHF legacy systems, or leaving the OakWin (CLEMIS) System in favor of the MPSCS TRS, which has proven extremely reliable in all the surrounding counties.
Apparently, during the last OakWin (CLEMIS) meeting, those in attendance where advised to make sure that their existing VHF/UHF licensed frequencies, and legacy radios are narrowband compliant, since M/A-COM could not guarantee that the system would be fully operational by the time that these spectrum efficient radios are mandated by the FCC. This obviously means that M/A-COM, the vendor of this TRS, will not be able to meet full-system operability until at least 2013.
Latest News Update Posted on 2009-04-01 17:08:21
The ongoing saga continues with the OakWin (CLEMIS) System. The system has proven so unreliable at on-scene emergencies that fire departments using this TRS, are reverting to conventional ITAC channels for direct fireground operations. Moreover, it also appears that several agencies are strongly entertaining the thought of reverting back to their old VHF/UHF legacy systems, or leaving the OakWin (CLEMIS) System in favor of the MPSCS TRS, which has proven extremely reliable in all the surrounding counties.
Apparently, during the last OakWin (CLEMIS) meeting, those in attendance where advised to make sure that their existing VHF/UHF licensed frequencies, and legacy radios are narrowband compliant, since M/A-COM could not guarantee that the system would be fully operational by the time that these spectrum efficient radios are mandated by the FCC. This obviously means that M/A-COM, the vendor of this TRS, will not be able to meet full-system operability until at least 2013.
Is this on the public CLEMIS site, or on the user side?
Its a news item in the Clemis database on RR posted by Thunderbolt the other day.
That explains freq use of ITAC by Troy FD lately. Guess I dont have to sell my MTX8000 for awhile 
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But at least you CAN monitor AEGIS or Pro Voice as long as it is not encrypted. As for Open Sky, even if you bought a radio and had it programmed to the right frequencies you still wouldn't be able to monitor because the radio has to check in or be authenticated to the system before it is allowed access. A problem with this is departments that use their radios in SCAN mode to monitor other near by police agencies on Open Sky take up system resources just by scanning! In any other system using your radio in scan mode would not have any effect.
So here I go again...
For the fourth time, I call on the RR members in Oakland County to take this and run with it. Get a letter in the Oakland Press, use the info Thunderbolt posted as a starting point, along with all the other postings, and show Oakland County residents how, in this econoinic downturn, your county is wasting taxpayer dollars on a unproven, unreliable, highly costly, and severly problematic radio system.
Carry on how the MSPSC system, (which you can hear), is the greatest thing to hit the airwaves since Marconi tickled the ether with his longwave. Sure you may be doing more baffle than dazzle, braggin on the MSPSC system. But fight, Fight, FIGHT to get a radio system you CAN hear.
The rest of us can't do it for you, we are not Oakland County residents. Nobody cares what we got to say. But you can. You have at your fingertips, right here on RR, all the information and documentation needed to kill once and for all, OpenSky in Oakland County. but you have to be proactive on this, NOW.
You need to tell John Q. Public, through the Oakland Press. Don't write a letter to the sheriff or L. Brooks, or the County Board of Commisioners. They are the ones that approved spending millions so far. Do think really they are going to acknowledge, after all the money spent so far, they were wrong? That would not be politicallty correct. They may lose the next election that way.
I know there will be a reply or two to this post, saying how OpenSky is working just fine somewhere. And I'm sure there have been many sucessful implementations. So what? All I read about on here is Oakland County residents (and others) whining because they can't, or won't be able to hear the new system. Well, you have a golden opprotunity, right now, to park the tears and actually do something about it.
For the fourth time, I call on the RR members in Oakland County to take this and run with it. Get a letter in the Oakland Press, use the info Thunderbolt posted as a starting point, along with all the other postings, and show Oakland County residents how, in this econoinic downturn, your county is wasting taxpayer dollars on a unproven, unreliable, highly costly, and severly problematic radio system.
Carry on how the MSPSC system, (which you can hear), is the greatest thing to hit the airwaves since Marconi tickled the ether with his longwave. Sure you may be doing more baffle than dazzle, braggin on the MSPSC system. But fight, Fight, FIGHT to get a radio system you CAN hear.
The rest of us can't do it for you, we are not Oakland County residents. Nobody cares what we got to say. But you can. You have at your fingertips, right here on RR, all the information and documentation needed to kill once and for all, OpenSky in Oakland County. but you have to be proactive on this, NOW.
You need to tell John Q. Public, through the Oakland Press. Don't write a letter to the sheriff or L. Brooks, or the County Board of Commisioners. They are the ones that approved spending millions so far. Do think really they are going to acknowledge, after all the money spent so far, they were wrong? That would not be politicallty correct. They may lose the next election that way.
I know there will be a reply or two to this post, saying how OpenSky is working just fine somewhere. And I'm sure there have been many sucessful implementations. So what? All I read about on here is Oakland County residents (and others) whining because they can't, or won't be able to hear the new system. Well, you have a golden opprotunity, right now, to park the tears and actually do something about it.
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