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I was scanning public safety tonite, and came across a transmission where an officer asked for his radio's ID number. Does this have anything to do with trunking or not? If not, why would he ask for an ID number?
 

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cj5 said:
I was scanning public safety tonite, and came across a transmission where an officer asked for his radio's ID number. Does this have anything to do with trunking or not? If not, why would he ask for an ID number?
Yes. On a p25 system the ID shows up whenever they transmit it is also used for a private call. For the Michigan State Police when they check in for their shift they have to give their PREP numbers to the dispatcher so they can be ID later.
 

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Yes. On a p25 system the ID shows up whenever they transmit it is also used for a private call. For the Michigan State Police when they check in for their shift they have to give their PREP numbers to the dispatcher so they can be ID later.

I thought all they had to do was key up their portable for check-in, not give any numbers, save for vehicle numbers and unit ID's.
 
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I thought all they had to do was key up their portable for check-in, not give any numbers, save for vehicle numbers and unit ID's.


If the officer knows his radio ID number....especially if it is one he pulled outta a charger at the PD....then if the dispatcher calls to check emergency status via radio ID number, then he knows he is being called. Instead of calling him by his unit number if he is in trouble or tripped the emergency on his radio, then dispatch can easily say..."Officer with radio xyz, what's your status?' Some departments also have equipment logs to fill out. Hope this all makes sense.
 

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So, that's an affirmative, on being a trunked system ID? Rememeber he asked dispatch, not the other way around.
 

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It doesn't have to be a radio on a trunked system to have an ID. Radios on conventional systems can transmit an ID number also.

Mike
 

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I've heard a lot of MSP check ins that didn't know their PREP ID or the CAR ID, either checking in from the post on a PREP or from the car at home. Dispatch only has what radio you are on at that time.
 

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mdulrich said:
It doesn't have to be a radio on a trunked system to have an ID. Radios on conventional systems can transmit an ID number also.

Mike

Would you like to elaborate on this?
 

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In my volunteer county (VHF high band), our unit ID is displayed on the dispatcher's console when we key up. What actually happens is that a 4 digit ID (for example, my radio is C20A) is transmitted to the comm center, then it's aliased there to display "CHIEF 2" on the dispatcher's screen.

At work, our radio ID's (6 digit number) were engraved in the side of our XTS3000's. I am not sure if this is standard for /\/\, or if they did it because we purchased 7000 radios at once.
 

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Yeah, sorry for the question beingg so open-ended. I'll refer you to this post http://radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20477, and say that I am grappling on to any hope that one of the public safety systems up here uses a trunked radio comm. Why? I don't know. Radio traffic up here seems pretty slim, for such an active area. I figured I was missing a lot of transmissions because I was scanning through unknown talkgroups or something. When I drive throughout town, I see plenty of town, county, and state mobile units, not even considering all the fire and ems units about. But, no busy comms. Maybe I'm just in a radio deadzone.
 

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Ah, gotcha! Sorry I can't help you there, hopefully you'll have some luck getting those PS freq's that you need!
 
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New Hampshire State Police are using digital conventional, I think (I know they're digital). Not sure about anyone else up there.
 

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DaveNF2G said:
New Hampshire State Police are using digital conventional, I think (I know they're digital). Not sure about anyone else up there.

Yup, police departments across the state are all digital, including county, town, warden, and state. The only trunked systems that I am aware of in NH are in the southern parts of the state (i.e. Manchester, Nashua, and Concord), which are more densely populated than up here in the central part of the state. On the otherhand, there are a lot of intermingling agencies up here, but maybe they are not big enough yet to justify a trunked system.
 

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Some CAD sysytems require both vehicle and handpack ID#'s to I.D. who is talking in what is known as a scrollbar or banner. Dispatcher can look at the banner and see a record of who has keyed up.
Very useful in any situation. My handpack and MDC have this feature, so I can see who just keyed up on my Handpack &MDC, a new feature we just started using when we obtained a new CAD system. At times when you use a loaner car or handpack you must enter your own number so that the radio will display your name on the screen if your not logged on with a call sign. Great for off duty!
 

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Good stuff to know. I went to a website (http://www.hitech.com/home.jsp) of a company that offers CAD systems, and did some further research. I had no idea that cops were so technologically equipped. I am such a techno-geek myself, it almost makes me want to be a cop, just for the toys.
 
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