Official BC-RH96 Remote Head Pre-Release Thread

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oregontreehugger

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A suggestion for Uniden: since the remote head is going to need a power source, how about the option of plugging it in OR running it on a couple of internal AA batteries that can be changed by the user?

That would be one less wire to run for mobile folks. Especially since you're already going to have power to the scanner, antenna to the scanner, audio most likely to an external speaker, and the cord from the remote head to the scanner.
 

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oregontreehugger said:
A suggestion for Uniden: since the remote head is going to need a power source, how about the option of plugging it in OR running it on a couple of internal AA batteries that can be changed by the user?

That would be one less wire to run for mobile folks. Especially since you're already going to have power to the scanner, antenna to the scanner, audio most likely to an external speaker, and the cord from the remote head to the scanner.

It would use several milliamps per hour to keep a large graphical display with multiple lites on for any length of time (don't forget the backlit keypad). I'll bet that's why it mentions external power supply.
 

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This is really good news. An earlier post referred to hooking up an RS-232 switch, so you could run multiple scanners. I'm assuming that the scanner(s) "unswitched" would still scan and do all the normal things, you just wouldn't be able to see the display or put it into hold mode, etc., unless you switched back to it?
 

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DaveIN said:
It would use several milliamps per hour to keep a large graphical display with multiple lites on for any length of time (don't forget the backlit keypad). I'll bet that's why it mentions external power supply.

One other reason is that there is no way to turn the 996 on or off remotely without actually disconnecting its power, so the 996 will have to be powered through the RH96 (e.g., power goes to the RH96, then to the 996). [Given that the 996, at least, goes through a quick power-down routine when you turn it off, saving the current state to persistent memory before completely shutting off, I'll be interested to see how Uniden pulls the remote power off trick and also has the scanner do this state save. There is a command that will cause the 996 to emulate a power-off, but it doesn't actually power the radio off. Perhaps they'll send that command, wait 1 second, and pull the plug...]

As for the multiple scanner control, yes, the radio will keep doing whatever it was doing after you stop sending it commands, so that should be possible, at least from the radios' standpoint. The control head might get confused, at least for a second, but w/o knowing more, it should catch up.

Since the radio's remote control model is synchronous only, I'll also be interested to see how Uniden keeps the RH96 synch'ed with the radio when the user makes changes to the radio's state from the radio itself, instead of from the remote (e.g., how the remote will detect changes to the radio's volume made from the radio's front-panel volume control). Lots of polling, I guess...

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Are the dimensions and weight available yet?

Is it safe to assume all jacks will be on the back of the unit (for a clean installation)?

I'm going to mount that baby to the top of the rear view mirror, hopefully! Seriously a dream come true! :)

Thanks,

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x and y dimensions are the same as the BCD996T/BCT15. z (depth) will be about 2 inches and the power/data jacks are on the back. There will be a jack for firmware updates that faces downward, but this is a seldom-connected jack.
 

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UPMan said:
x and y dimensions are the same as the BCD996T/BCT15. z (depth) will be about 2 inches and the power/data jacks are on the back. There will be a jack for firmware updates that faces downward, but this is a seldom-connected jack.

All well and good, but does it run linux? ;)
 

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wm8s said:
There is a command that will cause the 996 to emulate a power-off, but it doesn't actually power the radio off.
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(e.g., how the remote will detect changes to the radio's volume made from the radio's front-panel volume control). Lots of polling, I guess...

What is the command for emulating power off? I haven't found it in the control codes for the BCT15.

When you program the scanner you only use three wires, tx data, rx data and ground and there's 6 other pins in the 9-pin rear connector free for other uses. On the circuit board it says V_GPS or something on one pin but there's no detectable voltage even if all pins seem to have copper traces going to the electronics.

Maybe there's a way to power off and on the scanner remotly using hardware controls (connecting two pins?) and perhaps you could power the remote head with one of the free pins.


I don't feel there's any need to update anything in the remote head regarding volume or squelch. As soon as you turn the volume on the remote from 9 to 8 it will set the scanners volume to 8, even if you earlier had turned the scanners own volume dial up to 15. Last dial turned or last button pushed are the one that sets the state and overrides any prior settings.

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UPMan said:
x and y dimensions are the same as the BCD996T/BCT15. z (depth) will be about 2 inches and the power/data jacks are on the back. There will be a jack for firmware updates that faces downward, but this is a seldom-connected jack.

UPMan,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

When dimensions are cast in stone on mechanical drawings maybe Uniden could post a pdf for study?

I could use a headstart to fabricate a part I have in mind. Possibly for public consumption.

All the best,

Andy
 

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I vote for green!

And PLEASE do not use the display panel from the 330. It is way hard to read in daylight or room light.
 

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Awesome. I need at LEAST two. It's not only cool for your car, but to make the 369t easier to use/see on your desk.

You rock Upman. No joke, they should make a business school case study out of how you you've dominated a niche market by participating and carefully listening to the user community. Not to mention leveraging the 996 front panel (which is what I assume you did) to create a separate head is brilliant.

Impressive. And thanks.

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This is great news for sure. I realize that we are months away from release and nothing may be set in stone, but I'll toss these questions out for speculation - and maybe confirmation!!

1. I am in no way familiar with FCC rules, but why does this require any FCC approvals or input as it is not a radio - just an option to add to radio's already released. UPMan mentions FCC approval in an earlier posting.

2. Since it doesn't sound like you need to remove the current face, would you still be able to control everything from the original face as well as the remote head? This would allow somewhat like a dual control head.

3. Just an observation - location of power and data jacks are mentioned as being on the back. Please look at option to allow for mounting in another location, perhaps bottom. If you mount this head with velcro you most likely would mount flat on back. Just food for thought. I know each individual will have different requirements, so maybe have dual jacks such as bottom and back to allow for different mounting locations????

Thank you to Uniden & UPMan for this great enhancement.
 

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jpjohn said:
1. I am in no way familiar with FCC rules, but why does this require any FCC approvals or input as it is not a radio - just an option to add to radio's already released. UPMan mentions FCC approval in an earlier posting.

It add's cables that *could* transmit, or receive, unwanted spurious frequencies with a length of cable, I'm sure the FCC Part-15 covers that.

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2. Since it doesn't sound like you need to remove the current face, would you still be able to control everything from the original face as well as the remote head? This would allow somewhat like a dual control head.

You can currently do this with the UASD program running, and the control codes are emulating button pushes or knob turns, so my *guess* would be yes.

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3. Just an observation - location of power and data jacks are mentioned as being on the back. Please look at option to allow for mounting in another location, perhaps bottom. If you mount this head with velcro you most likely would mount flat on back. Just food for thought. I know each individual will have different requirements, so maybe have dual jacks such as bottom and back to allow for different mounting locations????

From the preliminary picture, it has a mounting bracket to allow for the wires. Depending how heavy the head is, you may need a bunch of velcro ;)
 

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There are channels on the back for routing the wires, so flush mount against a wall should be no problem.
 

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jpjohn said:
3. Just an observation - location of power and data jacks are mentioned as being on the back. Please look at option to allow for mounting in another location, perhaps bottom. If you mount this head with velcro you most likely would mount flat on back. Just food for thought. I know each individual will have different requirements, so maybe have dual jacks such as bottom and back to allow for different mounting locations????

This is a good point although some people will opt to use the mounting bracket and Velcro so it might not matter. Either way is going to have proponents and opponents. That being said, I'm with you as I see more options with mounting the head with the back against the mounting surface.

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Green display has my vote. It appears to be a closer match to OEM, IMHO. I recall my first XM receiveer (Roady2) had a feature that allowed the used to choose from about six colors, including a gross hip hop purple. I think this was accomplished via LED lumination.

Internal amplifier would be nice also.
 

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I vote for mood lighting. There would be a sensor that you could wear on your finger, made of the same irridescent black magical goop that was in the rings (there must be a million unsold rings somewhere in a warehouse in New Jersey left over from 1974). Then a miiniature photosensor would detect the color corresponding to your current mood, and that color would be faithfully reproduced by an LCD backpanel of RGB LEDs. Feeling sad? Blue lighting. Get cut off by some smartalek? Bright red! My Tahoe with 9 antennas drives by? Green. Etc.

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OK, I have changed my mind. I already have the 996 in the truck. I just relalized I would be using this remote when I have the 396 in the wifes (our commuter) car. It's a VW Passat which has a blue dash illumination.
I hope the display can go BLUE!:D:D:D
 
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