Official LATIE Thread

[AC0RV]

washington Parish Followup

I was talking with a friend of mine in the OEP and he said that it may require a additional 1.2 million to compete the interop plan for the LATIE for the parish.

As of right now the Sheriff Dept' Frankinton PD, Bogalusa PD are on the system. All of the parish Fire departments including the Bogalusa FD are on the respective VHF systems. Also at least one EMS is on their VHF system as well.


I have submitted some talkgroups that I recieved to the database so that MIF and the others can put in there. Need help on IDing them. Most of them sounded like Law Enforcement type traffic.

Thanks.

 

[kevins669]

I have submitted some talkgroups that I recieved to the database so that MIF and the others can put in there. Need help on IDing them. Most of them sounded like Law Enforcement type traffic.

Thanks.

I just took a look at your submissions to the DB to see why they were not posted yet. They have not been posted to the database, as there is nothing "concrete" to post. By listening just for a few moments, a listener will be able to discern whether a transmission is Law, Fire, EMS, etc. There is no way to provide a listing of "unidentified" talkgroups in a meaningful way, where entry into a scanner would provide meaningful, organized listening.

Leaving all of my confirmed LATIE talkgroups out, I have, currently, 489 unidentified talkgroups that I have logged on the LATIE system. I can't add those to the DB, as they are no help to you. Even if I tagged the group "Law Traffic on Sheridan Tower," that would not really be definitive that it was an agency that would only be heard in that area; it may be a law agency from Lafourche just passing through.

Anyway, if you really want to get people to help ID'ing a few unknown groups at a time, maybe just try posting a new thread; that may be the best way to get some people in that area to ID the groups... and a conversation can be had, as well!

-- Kevin

 

[loumaag]

Excellent points Kevin.

You know you don't have to hear something like "This is the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office" on the radio to know that you are listening to JPSO. Those folks in those areas where we have incomplete data (and there is lots of that) should just listen for addresses, intersections, business names, etc.; that type of information will generally tell you who you are listening to.

 

[kevins669]

Excellent points Kevin.

You know you don't have to hear something like "This is the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office" on the radio to know that you are listening to JPSO. Those folks in those areas where we have incomplete data (and there is lots of that) should just listen for addresses, intersections, business names, etc.; that type of information will generally tell you who you are listening to.

Couple of other things

It came up that there are some unidentified groups listed in the DB already. They were somehow added in in batches of other good groups, and I suppose we Admins just left them there.

The main objective of my previous post was to state that the DB should be our "official" registry of talkgroups; our "working list" should be worked, if needed, in this forum.

And Lou, it would be lovely if they always identified themselves as "Hello, scanner listeners... It's 12 AM, and we are letting you know you are listening to JPSO Dispatch-1."

However, until they switched to LATIE last year, they would still identify their old UHF callsign after broadcasts, even though they hadn't used those UHF frequencies in 9 years.

And, if that isn't good enough, the only agency I ever hear broadcasting like you referred to, is Jefferson Parish Fire Alarm... they always do after a tone-out... Except they ID KNHH513 and WSW771.... though they don't use WSW771....

ok... enough!

-- Kevin

 

[AC0RV]

Kevin and Lou,

I am hoping for a list of talkgroups from a friend of mine in Franklinton, I have not yet recieved the list.

Since I do not know anyone other than him in the area that has a 700 Mhz capable scanner and I am not currently living in the area. What should I do about getting the IDed and confirmed ? Any help would be appreciated a lot.


Thanks

 

[loumaag]

...It came up that there are some unidentified groups listed in the DB already. They were somehow added in in batches of other good groups, and I suppose we Admins just left them there. ...

Well, the original unknowns were from the first days that the system went on the air. Looking at the one there now, the only one from that first few weeks that is still there is 27693. The rest have been added more recently (and improperly). At this time the system is a "working" system, not something in the "test/build out" phase, so there is no place for "Unknowns". I would suggest that unless someone can come up with a more positive ID on those that they be removed within a week or so; however, since I am not there to listen to those specifically, I will leave it to Kevin or David (the only two admins actually in "hearing" range) to take care of it.

In regard to that, let me comment a bit about the 18517 TG; every time I have come through the state and have heard this channel active, it sounded more like a "back channel". One recent Saturday when I was hearing it while going down I-10 (approaching BR), some little girl (like below the age of 10) was talking to someone who obviously knew who she was and thought it was great fun to have her on the radio; it obviously is not used for anything serious.

In regard to this, I will start a Sticky thread in the LA forum for the sole purpose of identifying unknown TG's. I will post an initial message and I suggest everyone follow that format so we can help identify some of these unknowns.

 

[kevins669]

In regard to this, I will start a Sticky thread in the LA forum for the sole purpose of identifying unknown TG's. I will post an initial message and I suggest everyone follow that format so we can help identify some of these unknowns.

Perfect. I think this will help out a lot, and bring more discussion to the group.

-- Kevin

 

[red8]

They had a write up in the Sunday Advocate about the LATIE system, Governor Jindal said that Interoperability is and will be a priority.However the "Free State of Livingston" is going to stay with their 450 MHZ system.
red8

Boy howdy that's a big word to spell

 

[KC5AJP]

Are there any LATIE scanner listeners in the Southwest part of the state yet or am I the only one?

 

[Landman]

Does anyone know the new frequency for the Port Allen site (site 131)? I have been working in Baton Rouge lately and I noticed a gap in coverage along I-10 between Grosse Tete and Baton Rouge. This gap used to be covered quite nicely by the Port Allen tower but its former CC freq of 866.4 is now silent. I used Pro-96 COM with my PSR-500 to look at the neighbor sites list for the Baton Rouge HQ site and it shows a CC freq of 769.96875 for the Port Allen site. The other 14 neighbors that show up match the info in the database. The freq of 769.96875 is outside the tunable range of the PSR 500. I used the search feature to search all 700 MHz freqs that the PSR is capable of receiving but I found no frequencies around Port Allen except the Baton Rouge HQ and LSU towers which leads me to believe the freq that PRO-96 COM gave me is correct. Can anyone else confirm these findings? David Hitchner maybe? Since 700 MHz is being rebanded also is this maybe a freq in the new band plan?

 

[Landman]

Okay, using Pro-96 Com again with the Lafayette tower it again gives me 769.96875 for site 131, Port Allen, and for site 141 it gives me 769.55625. Both of these frequencies are outside the tunable range of the PSR-500. Can anoyone shed some light on what is going on?

 

[kevins669]

Okay, using Pro-96 Com again with the Lafayette tower it again gives me 769.96875 for site 131, Port Allen, and for site 141 it gives me 769.55625. Both of these frequencies are outside the tunable range of the PSR-500. Can anoyone shed some light on what is going on?

Well, every time I have gone in that area looking for towers lately, I have not received a CC on those frequencies, using my Yaesu mobile radio, which can pick up those "rebanded" frequencies, albeit not that well. I have seen the state use dummy or placeholder frequencies when building the sites and testing. Pro96Com has reported, for instance, a neighbor CC for a site as 851.0000, on a new site being constructed. Perhaps that may be what is happening there.


ANYWAY.... Go update your PSR now... GRE released new firmware, and we can know for sure if it is real or just a placeholder.

-- Kevin

 

[WX4JCW]

FYI if you have a GRE Scanner PSR-500 or PSR-600 There is a new firmware update which has updated the 700Mhz band, so that may solve one of the issues

 

[Landman]

Thanks for the comment about the firmware. I was unaware of it and I was able to upgrade my scanner before leaving for work this morning. Anyway, with the new firmware loaded and the frequency that PRO-96 COM gave me programmed in I headed for Baton Rouge on I-10. After I passed Grosse Tete I noticed the the gap in the area with heavy trees along I-10 was again filled with a good solid signal. Sho nuff, it was the Port Allen site operating on a CC of 769.96875. When at lunch I went to the little cafe on the tenth floor of the EBR courthouse with my scanner and laptop and PRO-96 COM gave me the CC of 769.96875 with an alternate of 866.4 which was the former CC. It was funny to watch as voice comms were on both 700 and 800 MHz frequencies with some of them being in the rebanded area of 770.xxxxx. Even within the same conversations I would see one unit talk on a voice channel of 770.xxxxx with the reply on that same talkgroup coming on an 800 MHz frequency with no discernable difference in audio.

On another note Pro-96 Com gave me another new site, number 141, with a CC of 769.55625. This site came in strong in the Western part of St Martin around the Breaux Bridge area.

 

[kevins669]

It was funny to watch as voice comms were on both 700 and 800 MHz frequencies with some of them being in the rebanded area of 770.xxxxx. Even within the same conversations I would see one unit talk on a voice channel of 770.xxxxx with the reply on that same talkgroup coming on an 800 MHz frequency with no discernable difference in audio.

Numerous Region 1 sites are set up like this. In fact, I think all of them are. For North Simulcast, there are only 6 of the total in 700 MHz.

Glad we got this ironed out. Will make for good tower hunting next month.

-- Kevin

 

[kevins669]

Shreveport Site Verification

Any listeners to confirm the first Shreveport LATIE site is now operational? From what I heard a few days ago, North LA should be represented now...

-- Kevin

 

[kevins669]

Any listeners to confirm the first Shreveport LATIE site is now operational? From what I heard a few days ago, North LA should be represented now...

-- Kevin

Anyone???

How about Alexandria??? I know there some Avoyelles people on here...

With gas so high, I don't really want to drive that far

Site numbers, CCs, and neighbors if anyone happens to get them.

Also, anyone in Jeff Davis or that area can get Jeff Davis interop TG id's... I think there is an exception to how those talkgroups are numbered/named.

Any radios in these parishes will have Jeff Davis in them:
Allen
Beauregard
Calcasieu
Cameron

Thanks!

-- Kevin

 

[WX4JCW]

I will be going along I-20 on Saturday, if no one else reports by then i will let you know whats going on

 

[kevins669]

I will be going along I-20 on Saturday, if no one else reports by then i will let you know whats going on

That's great. Thanks.

-- Kevin

 

[KC5AJP]

I spoke to a Fire Chief in Calcasieu today and was told that they have some radios already. He agreed to let me look at it and I will get the IDs from him. Could be a couple of weeks before I can meet with him though. Kinda busy.