Official LATIE Thread

[hvfc6120]

Hopefully they get it straight. I've heard many JP's comlain about busy signals when they try to key-up. if this is a problem now, i wonder how the system is going to handle the EMS and Fire Traffic once we move on to the system. Hopefully it will solve problems of many buildings in the parish; if you are inside the biulding, you cant tx out. this is a real pain when you have a crew of FF in a building and can't communicate with them because of the lack of signal. or can't understand them. Its hard enough to talk with an SCBA on, but through a digital radio the sound is choppy and distorted if there's not a strong signal. Sounds like your talking through a long tube.

 

[loumaag]

This problem of "busy" is really a discipline problem, not so much a system problem.

Let me explain, I was down in the NOLA area in the middle of the month and staying out in LaPlace. All of the JPSO traffic was being carried on the LaPlace tower and some of the NOPD, now why? Well obviously someone in the area was monitoring the JPSO & NOPS traffic, it was not a transient thing, (like a deputy on the way somewhere else) but was that way 24/7. There should be no reason for this to be the case, I mean it was great for scanner people in St. John, but tough on the system load. Since the LaPlace tower is a 5 frequency tower, one for CCh leaves 4 voice channels available. That means if NOPD (think it was 2nd & 3rd Districts) are on the air and a couple of JP districts are talking are all talking at the same time the entire LaPlace tower is tied up and the system will not issue a system grant for any other affiliated TG even if the tower where the person trying to get a channel has plenty of capacity. Nobody in St. John should be monitoring JPSO or NOPD on the system causing the load on the LaPlace tower to be so heavy. Hence, it is not the system in JP or Orleans that is the bottleneck, it is the smaller outlying towers that are causing those "Busy" signals because someone who shouldn't be has affiliated radios on the smaller sites.

BTW, for those not-so-interesting TG's (like not listened to 24/7 elsewhere) they won't have the problem since no one out of the area is tying up the outlying sites with those TG's; so your fear of EMS/FD problems only will come to fruition if someone at another site decides to start monitoring.

 

[kevins669]

The complaints about "busys" should go down a bit, now. A few weeks ago, the North Simulcast sites began using both 700 and 800 MHz channels. Prior to the addition, primarily 800 MHz was used. Not the best for Pro-96/2096 users.

This system is VERY busy... I do not know why they would exclude 700 from the beginning, except for a lack of xts 5000s....

-- Kevin

 

[loumaag]

Kevin, maybe you can do the system people a favor. Could you pass on (through your limited contacts :wink: ) what I was discussing above...it really doesn't matter how much capacity Metro N & S have if the bottle-neck is in LaPlace. There is no way anyone should be affilatied with all the JPSO channels on the 5 freq tower.

 

[kevins669]

Kevin, maybe you can do the system people a favor. Could you pass on (through your limited contacts :wink: ) what I was discussing above...it really doesn't matter how much capacity Metro N & S have if the bottle-neck is in LaPlace. There is no way anyone should be affilatied with all the JPSO channels on the 5 freq tower.

I know what you are saying... They did a good job of getting the main odd-ball talk groups out of the sites that have limited channels available... Gretna EMS, for example, gets rejected at MSY and Kenner. Problem comes in, though, where the Laplace tower is in a pretty good location and the XTS's can hear a good signal. If you are in S Kenner or W Metairie, Laplace tower comes in pretty well. It is important for a JPSO deputy to be able to affiliate to Laplace for a chase or something, but it seems they need to set some priority or something with all the sites in such a small area.

I am sure they have complete control over this kind of thing... and I should be able to pass this on this week. Only problem is, some things will have to be handled with State officials, as Laplace would be in their jurisdiction, whereas the Simulcasts, MSY, and Kenner are all in the hands of Region 1.

-- Kevin

 

[loumaag]

I know what you are saying... They did a good job of getting the main odd-ball talk groups out of the sites that have limited channels available... Gretna EMS, for example, gets rejected at MSY and Kenner. Problem comes in, though, where the Laplace tower is in a pretty good location and the XTS's can hear a good signal. If you are in S Kenner or W Metairie, Laplace tower comes in pretty well. It is important for a JPSO deputy to be able to affiliate to Laplace for a chase or something, but it seems they need to set some priority or something with all the sites in such a small area.

I am sure they have complete control over this kind of thing... and I should be able to pass this on this week. Only problem is, some things will have to be handled with State officials, as Laplace would be in their jurisdiction, whereas the Simulcasts, MSY, and Kenner are all in the hands of Region 1.

-- Kevin

In reference to the S Kenner and W Metairie areas, I can understand that and you will note I didn't mention KPD (although they are on the tower also). So KPD and JPSO D4 would normally show up, sometimes maybe even JSPSO D1 (say if they were near the lakefront) but you tell me why D2 & D3 are on there 24/7. Nope, someone has radios in LaPlace tuned to JPSO...Kevin do some thinking, who (or should I say what) do you know that has lots of radios, is in LaPlace and can do their own programming (or at least doesn't cost them anything)? (I know you have been there, 'cause I was with you.)

 

[SOUTH300]

Lafayette Site 121

Can anyone in the Lafayette area catch the Lafayette Tower on Latie?
121Lafayette764.05625*774.30625*

I live about 7 miles from the tower and cannot catch the control channel. I am currently monitoring the Abbeville site, but the signal is very weak. As of right now (6/6/06 1800) I am monitoring talkgroup 5021 and there is constant traffic.

Thanks,
South300

EDIT: Subject Line should read site 121

 

[loumaag]

Can you identify TG 5021? We have it tentatively ID'd as Troop A, but...

Also, try a search through the 700 MHz band and (custom search) and see if you can get another frequency for Lafayette. I put how to do it somewhere either in this thread or the previous one.

 

[mavriktu]

Just stumbled on this forum,thought you might like to know that as of 1630 today Washington Parish S.O. is on 700,they are using the XTL 5000 mobils,and XTS 2500 portables.Dont be asking me technical questions,that is how I found this sight ,by looking for (Understandable) instructions on them.

 

[kevins669]

Can you identify TG 5021? We have it tentatively ID'd as Troop A, but...

It may be assigned as troop A, but it has been patched to an NOPD dispatch talkgroup for a while now.

-- Kevin

 

[red8]

Just about everybody and his brother have been using that talkgroup ID. One night I heard Troop A using it.

 

[loumaag]

It may be assigned as troop A, but it has been patched to an NOPD dispatch talkgroup for a while now.

-- Kevin

Actually it would make more sense to be assigned to Trp B since it is only one off of the Trp B Dispatch TG. I guess until LSP starts to use the system for real, we are just guessing.

 

[kevins669]

I guess until LSP starts to use the system for real, we are just guessing.

I would have to guess that your guess... would be just a guess.

-- Kevin

 

[loumaag]

I would have to guess that your guess... would be just a guess.

-- Kevin

I guess so...

 

[retcapt]

A little help

Does anyone know why I am not hearing a lot on Latice. I seem to get JPSP Third District, but very seldom a NOPD channel or anyone else. I am disappointed that I am not hearing more on the Latice system.. Thanks

 

[loumaag]

Does anyone know why I am not hearing a lot on Latice. I seem to get JPSP Third District, but very seldom a NOPD channel or anyone else. I am disappointed that I am not hearing more on the Latice system.. Thanks

Latice?
I suppose you mean LATIE. If you are not hearing NOPD, it is probably because you are listening to the wrong site. I am guessing that if you were listening to the Downtown NOLA site (101) or North Simulcast site (201) you would hear a lot more but would not hear the west bank so much. Which scanner are you using?

 

[retcapt]

Latie

I am using bcd396t. I have installed all the channels, not just the control channels. I hear NOPD very seldom. When they do come in they are clear. I am just at my wits end with this, I guess I just don't know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[loumaag]

I am using bcd396t. I have installed all the channels, not just the control channels. I hear NOPD very seldom. When they do come in they are clear. I am just at my wits end with this, I guess I just don't know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Understand that a BCD396T will only track on one Control Channel per system at any one time. It locks onto the first one found and that is what it uses, it does not matter if it the strongest one, or the one you want; just the first one it finds per system. Reprogram your radio so that you place each site of interest in a separate system and monitor that way. Alternatively go into the system you programmed and lock out any CCh's you don't want to use.

 

[AC0RV]

Washington Parish

Does anyone know anything about Washington Parish going to the LATIE System. Got a note from a friend of my saying that they would be up and running in the next week or so. Anyone can confirm this ?

Thanks

 

[loumaag]

Does anyone know anything about Washington Parish going to the LATIE System. Got a note from a friend of my saying that they would be up and running in the next week or so. Anyone can confirm this ?

Thanks

See this thread:
http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71242