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Landman

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Well that would would suck. That could be it but didn't they use triple conversion in this thing? There is a difference of 8.7625 between one set of frequencies I get for the same tower and a difference of 8.2125 for the other set. I don't see any intermediate frequencies near either of those values listed in the specs. Anyway if anyone else can their search in this band near Lafayette or St. Martin Parishes let us know what you find. Try to confirm or disprove what I found.
 

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Ok gang I need an update on the LATIE system for the Washington Parish and surrounding area. Any files would be appreciate a lot.

Washington Perish has only two talkgroups in use on the LATIE. The Washington Perish Sheriff and Bogalusa PD. So it should be fairly easy to program.

For the LATIE all you need to do is program in the CONTROL CHANNEL FREQUENCIES ONLY. So just go to the database and look up the LATIE to select the control channel frequencies you want to program in. I'll use the New Orleans ones for example, because honestly I have no clue which tower sites are the closest to Washington Perish. That you may need to ask in this forum to someone who actually lives in LA.

On the BCD396 do the following to program in for the LATIE.

1. click MENU
2. select Program System
3. select New System
4. select MOT
5. select P25 (this will be for 700mhz trunked systems)
6. Answer Y for yes and then select Set Frequencies
7. select New Frequency
8. enter the control channel frequency only. Then press MENU to select another frequency
9. when finished entering frequencies press MENU and then select Edit Sys Option
10. select Set Quick Key and then choose a quickkey for the new system you're programming
11. Press MENU and then select Edit Group and select New Group
12. select Edit Channel and then select New Channel (this will be the talkgroup id)
13. enter talkgroups 38502 and 38511 (remember the Menu button is like the back button on a browser it takes you back a menu)

38502 is Bogalusa PD and 38511 is Washington Perish Sheriff

Once you've entered those just press menu until you've backed all the way out and into scan mode, you should now be scanning your new system.

The control channel freqencies you want to use are for New Orleans Metro
868.85000 774.70625 868.63750 868.80000 775.09375

So with the steps above program all of those frequencies in. What the scanner will do is scan all of those frequencies until it finds a signal and then it locks on it. It doesn't matter where you are in the state. AS LONG AS YOU CAN HEAR A CONTROL CHANNEL you should be able to listen to ANY AGENCY anywhere in the state on the system. So if you are in shreveport and listen to a control channel in shreveport, you should still be able to hear washington perish. But the frequencies I listed above are more than likely the closest ones to Washington.

The honest best thing to do would be to program every single CONTROL CHANNEL listed on the LATIE database. and let it just scan for the strongest signal no matter where you drive in the state. And whatever talkgroups you have stored should be heard.
 

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after I place them in there. I can have the controls for the New Orleans area amd the Northsore area including Parish in one system or would it be best to seperate them ?
 

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nexus said:
That you may need to ask in this forum to someone who actually lives in LA.

The tower for that area would be the Sheridan tower.


nexus said:
The honest best thing to do would be to program every single CONTROL CHANNEL listed on the LATIE database. and let it just scan for the strongest signal no matter where you drive in the state. And whatever talkgroups you have stored should be heard.

This really would not work for areas such as New Orleans. Due to radios affiliating to different towers, and restrictions on some groups vs. towers, you may not hear what you want if you leave it up to the radio to decide.

Say you put in 3 sites - Downtown, N. Simulcast, and Bridge City. If you were driving in an area where the Bridge City tower would have the best signal, you would be completely SOL. Nothing really affiliates there, except JPSO Disp-3 sometimes. You would never hear anything else, but you would be in the listening area of, say, NOPD.

For the New Orleans Metro area, unfortunately, you have to separate all the sites.

Definitely a memory hog, doing it that way.

-- Kevin
 

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I noticed the new site 146 with a CC of 764.21875 added to the database. Does anyone know where or about where this site is located? I noticed that it has the same CC freq as Geismar so it must be in another part of the state.
 

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Landman said:
I noticed the new site 146 with a CC of 764.21875 added to the database. Does anyone know where or about where this site is located? I noticed that it has the same CC freq as Geismar so it must be in another part of the state.

This info would really help... I am going to find some of the missing towers late next week, and some info as to where this was heard would be good to post.

-- Kevin
 

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P25 Mode

Could someone advise me of what would be the proper P25 mode (auto, manual, or default) for my 396T. I am mainly listening to JPSO and having a minor problem with the digital signal breaking up from time to time.

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Gary Shuford
 

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gpswx4cster said:
Could someone advise me of what would be the proper P25 mode (auto, manual, or default) for my 396T. I am mainly listening to JPSO and having a minor problem with the digital signal breaking up from time to time.

Thanks,

Gary Shuford
I would leave it in Auto. What you are experiencing is the multi-path distortion due to the simulcast. Location and strength of signal are the two things you must work with to overcome that.

That makes me wonder, I may have missed it, but did the north and south simulcast locations ever get stated? Keven can you help out with that?
 

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loumaag said:
That makes me wonder, I may have missed it, but did the north and south simulcast locations ever get stated? Keven can you help out with that?


The North Simulcast is made up of sites in Metairie, Gretna, and Chalmette.

The South Simulcast is made up of sites in Larose, Lafitte, and St. Rosalie

-- Kevin
 

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Thanks Lou Magg and others for the help understanding the LATIE. I should be set up for monitoring Louisiana. Now I can't wait for the summer of 08 when I will get the scanner.
 

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More sites are coming soon. Right now it appears that just about everything East of the Atchafalaya and Mississippi rivers is covered and West of the Atchafalaya/Mississippi everything South of a line running halfway between I-10 and US-190 is covered. We may see new sites popping up soon finally expanding the coverage Northward. A few weeks ago I spoke with a certain person with a public safety agency in Avoyelles Parish that said that his agency would receive their radios for programming on the state 700 system in early January. I took a trip Northward on I-49 about a month ago to look for new control channels but I could find nothing North of the Lafayette site. I did however find a few 700 MHz frequencies with no modulation coming in at full strength on my PSR-500. I am wondering if these are going to be the control channels for new sites and they are just testing the repeaters. Time will tell. Anyway, if anyone is North of US-190 and West of the Atchafalaya let us know if you find any control channels soon.
 

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Landman said:
More sites are coming soon. Right now it appears that just about everything East of the Atchafalaya and Mississippi rivers is covered and West of the Atchafalaya/Mississippi everything South of a line running halfway between I-10 and US-190 is covered. We may see new sites popping up soon finally expanding the coverage Northward. A few weeks ago I spoke with a certain person with a public safety agency in Avoyelles Parish that said that his agency would receive their radios for programming on the state 700 system in early January. I took a trip Northward on I-49 about a month ago to look for new control channels but I could find nothing North of the Lafayette site. I did however find a few 700 MHz frequencies with no modulation coming in at full strength on my PSR-500. I am wondering if these are going to be the control channels for new sites and they are just testing the repeaters. Time will tell. Anyway, if anyone is North of US-190 and West of the Atchafalaya let us know if you find any control channels soon.

Four more sites are under construction or planned south of I-10 and west of BTR. Six more north of BTR, east of the river.

About 70 more sites planned for construction through 2010.

I guess I will get to know the backroads of the state :)

-- Kevin
 

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kevins669 said:
Four more sites are under construction or planned south of I-10 and west of BTR. Six more north of BTR, east of the river.

About 70 more sites planned for construction through 2010.

I guess I will get to know the backroads of the state :)

-- Kevin

We need to start mapping these sites so we can make a map to post in the database kinda like the one for the 800 system but with better detail. I started a map for my own use on some maps I printed and taped together using my Delorme mapping software but this map would be copyrighted. If you know of a good map in the public domain with the parish lines and major highways maybe we can use it to get started. There is not much info on the FCC's website that I could find for the exact location of the 700 MHz sites but many are co-located with the 800 MHz sites. I got the locations of the 800 sites from the FCC database and put the lat and long into my Delorme software to plot the locations of those sites but we will just have to kinda guess at the rest of the 700 sites unless they post more info on the FCC's website. If you are going to roam around and find some of these sites and want to add to my map I can go to Kinko's and have it scanned and send it to you. At some point we can transfer this info onto a map that is in the public domain for posting on this site.
 

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Landman said:
We need to start mapping these sites so we can make a map to post in the database kinda like the one for the 800 system but with better detail. I started a map for my own use on some maps I printed and taped together using my Delorme mapping software but this map would be copyrighted. If you know of a good map in the public domain with the parish lines and major highways maybe we can use it to get started. There is not much info on the FCC's website that I could find for the exact location of the 700 MHz sites but many are co-located with the 800 MHz sites. I got the locations of the 800 sites from the FCC database and put the lat and long into my Delorme software to plot the locations of those sites but we will just have to kinda guess at the rest of the 700 sites unless they post more info on the FCC's website. If you are going to roam around and find some of these sites and want to add to my map I can go to Kinko's and have it scanned and send it to you. At some point we can transfer this info onto a map that is in the public domain for posting on this site.

I was marking the locations using a Garmin mapping program, but I lost that file...

I do remember most of their locations, though. Before submitting them to the DB, I verified all sites by going to every one. It was kind of a fun game. Except when you get to restricted roads and such... The Atchafalaya Basin has a levee road that is restricted, but I know there is a tower down that road :(

There will not be any info from the FCC, since they are just statewide licences... Much more efficient way of handling this, I think. Makes for a great relaxing time hunting.

-- Kevin

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Site Down today??

Does anybody know if the north simulcast site(s) is/are down? I lost all JPSO traffic today.

Edit: I only had one data channel programmed for the North Simulcast system (per the database of 868.8500). I added 868.9000 and I am now receiving JPSO. So what are the other data channels used on the North site?????

Thanks,

Gary Shuford
 
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gpswx4cster said:
Does anybody know if the north simulcast site(s) is/are down? I lost all JPSO traffic today.

Edit: I only had one data channel programmed for the North Simulcast system (per the database of 868.8500). I added 868.9000 and I am now receiving JPSO. So what are the other data channels used on the North site?????

Thanks,

Gary Shuford

North Simulcast switched control channels at 11:46 AM today to 868.9000.

The other alternate CC is 765.28215.

-- Kevin
 
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