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scannerfreak

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The Aurora Sub (51) also has had their radios recently installed and are now using the system. I think some radios are still being installed, still some testing..
 

jahnotis

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Does anyone know why the 867.8500 frequency in the logical channel order #6 for Howard County does not work
 

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scanner_freak said:
2664, 2680, 64280 are not valid Motorola type 2 talkgroups, they must be status bits.

Those talkgroups are status bit talkgroups as follows:

2664 is +8 Which is DES Encryption talkgroup for 2656
2680 is +8 Which is DES Encryption talkgroup for 2672
64280 is+8 Which is DES Encryption talkgroup for 64272

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CC Changes Dalton Wayne Co

The database lists the following frequencies for Dalton, Wayne county site #105 however they have made some changes:
866.38750 866.45000 867.37500 867.41250 867.90000* 868.26250* 868.38750

868.2625 is no longer a CC and has been replaced by: 866.0875. I am not getting any hits on the 868.2625 frequency any longer in Unitrunker. This btw is one of many SAFET systems that does change CC's

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Question about Omnilink

I hate to get off the current subject, but I have a question.

In 2003, our Sheriff's Dept purchased a large amount of portable radios, primarily XTS5000s and some mobile units. The city police already had XTS 3000s (early models) that they got in 2002. Anyway, I discovered over the summer that our county does not have "Omnilink" which of course enables a departmental radio for D Region to affiliate with a tower in say, H Region and be able to talk on that tower.

I happened to speak to a tech from Ra-Comm who stopped by a while back to do yearly preventive maintenance on both mine and my partner's portables. I asked him why our radios will not affiliate with the other towers in the state (having took it with me on family trips to see how it would do). He says my county never paid for "Omnilink" to be programmed to our radios. Now how does that work? What's the point in the state giving us the grant but not pay for the "interoperability" we so need? I then had an opporitunity to speak with the sheriff who was in office at the time of the upgrade. He swore to me that arrangements were made ($$$$) for Omnilink to be put in the system. Is Ra-Comm bending my department over?
 

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I don't know. I believe it was just ordered from the state via Motorola (Ra-Comm).

All our EMA uses are GE Erickson knock-offs.
 

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lol, kept hearing units in pursuit...turned out it was ISP Central Zone training :)

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kadetklapp said:
I hate to get off the current subject, but I have a question.

In 2003, our Sheriff's Dept purchased a large amount of portable radios, primarily XTS5000s and some mobile units. The city police already had XTS 3000s (early models) that they got in 2002. Anyway, I discovered over the summer that our county does not have "Omnilink" which of course enables a departmental radio for D Region to affiliate with a tower in say, H Region and be able to talk on that tower.

I happened to speak to a tech from Ra-Comm who stopped by a while back to do yearly preventive maintenance on both mine and my partner's portables. I asked him why our radios will not affiliate with the other towers in the state (having took it with me on family trips to see how it would do). He says my county never paid for "Omnilink" to be programmed to our radios. Now how does that work? What's the point in the state giving us the grant but not pay for the "interoperability" we so need? I then had an opporitunity to speak with the sheriff who was in office at the time of the upgrade. He swore to me that arrangements were made ($$$$) for Omnilink to be put in the system. Is Ra-Comm bending my department over?

Omnilink is usually included in the radios. It did not cost any more to add this feature to our radios. Originally, we were asked if we wanted it, and it was encouraged that we get it, but now is always included without asking. In fact, here is a quote from a Johnson price sheet:
51SL Portable, Non-DTMF, 700 / 800 MHZ, 512 Channels, Full Digital Display, 3 Watt APCO 25 Compliant, 3600 / 9600 Baud, Analog and SmartZone Capable, SmartNet Capable, "OMNI Link" Included (High Tier Radio)

It's not the state at all, it's whoever initially ordered your radios. They either did not ask for that feature to be included or were not told about it. It is also not a system function, it is a per radio feature.

Every agency in our county, except the Shf Dept, uses the "GE Erickson knock-offs" aka Johnson's. Other than a few minor firmware issues, we have had no problems with them. Perform just as good as the Motorola
 
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kadetklapp

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Sorry, I was thinking Johnson and put GE. And having handled one lately they aren't bad little radios either.

Anyway, well we got screwed then. Either by Ra-Comm or by our Sgt who was in charge of getting the grant.
 

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If you seem to be missing things on SAFET you may want to check the FCC Database searching YE and YP and all the ISPC licesnses under those as they have made a lot of changes.
Some additions:
Henry Co 868.7125
Shelby Co. 856.4875 857.7125
Rush Co. 856.4875

Most of the changes are South of Indy, but there are occasional changes up North of Indy too, including St Joe Co.
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n9zek

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Pike Co

Over the past week I have been hearing periodic traffic, including an EMS dispatch. Has Pike County switched over or are they just testing the system?
 

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Can someone help me (even through PM) get set up using a scanner and a computer with Safe-T? I know all about the digital scanner and trunking and everything. Is there a scanner and computer program that would be set up to work with this well?
 

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I use don starrs win 96 with my Pro 96 to do Safe-T, I know there are other programs for Uniden scanners if that is what you might have such as Butel. If you have a pro 96 and purchase win 96 from starrsoft.com , I would be more than happy to send you my file.
 

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New Recommendations of State Panel on Govt. Reform

Check this out! Recommendation #6 on page 22.

http://indianalocalgovreform.iu.edu/assets/docs/Report_12-10-07.pdf

That cannot please MA/COM. Oh wait, I forgot. Their system is fully compatible with SAFE-T, so Open Sky users have nothing to fear.

The chances of these recommendations being implemented are just about the same me retiring to a villa in the Bahamas this year LOL!

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powerlineman

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Pike County

n9zek said:
Over the past week I have been hearing periodic traffic, including an EMS dispatch. Has Pike County switched over or are they just testing the system?


Pike County probably will never completely switch over. Every Deputy, ambulance, and fire chief has an 800MHz portable. Some of the deuputyies like to use 800, some don't. Some times a deputy will talk on 800 while out of the car, then use VHF when in the car. Same goes for EMS. It just depends who's on duty. Strange I know but that's how it is. The EMS is simulcasted on the initial dispatch (two-tone) then after that the dispatcher has to select either VHF or 800. The default selection is VHF. The fire departments plan on adding remote receivers on their VHF system and will stay on it. 800 will mainly be used for interoperability.
 

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Tg 39776

Talkgroup 39776 sounds to be Indiana Army National Guard operations of some kind. I have been seeing it on Unitrunker for a while now, and have heard traffic from time to time on it. Still not sure what exactly it is, and it ain't in the database.
 

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DiGiTaLD said:
Talkgroup 39776 sounds to be Indiana Army National Guard operations of some kind. I have been seeing it on Unitrunker for a while now, and have heard traffic from time to time on it. Still not sure what exactly it is, and it ain't in the database.


It and several other NG TG's are in the DB... better look again :) Use "Find on page" and type in Atterbury and you shall find them ....

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