OLD SAFE-T Discussion Threads (2005-2012)

[DiGiTaLD]

Tg 39776

It and several other NG TG's are in the DB... better look again Use "Find on page" and type in Atterbury and you shall find them ....

Just looked again. 39776 is not listed. The lowest numerical number for ANG talkgroups is 39792. Unless I am missing something, I cannot find TG 39776 anywhere in that page.

 

[Viper43]

Just looked again. 39776 is not listed. The lowest numerical number for ANG talkgroups is 39792. Unless I am missing something, I cannot find TG 39776 anywhere in that page.

Odd, I think it used to be listed, if I remember correctly it's the security channel for the ING HQ. About all you hear are radio checks and all clear.

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[Viper43]

Interesting, not sure whats up but I noticed a DOC unit on Reg J MA encrypted.

And it sounds like there is a fatal crash in Boone Co.

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[seanb580]

Does anyone know if there are plans for Hamilton County to Join Safe T?

 

[Viper43]

Nope, but they are "upgrading" their EDACS system.... most likely to digital, and recently they have added a "tower" or two. I say tower sarcasticly because what they used for a tower in at least one location is simply a temporary type ham tower that they made "permanent" with extra guy wires and mounted on a concrete pad. Dumbest thing I ever saw for a public safety agency, and whoever OK'ed that should be fire ASAP!
At this time though it appears on Westfield will be on SAFET.

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[seanb580]

Well, that is interesting. You would think that in a County like that, with the money they have that they would have the best for public safety, certainly not EDACS junk.

 

[Viper43]

Well, that is interesting. You would think that in a County like that, with the money they have that they would have the best for public safety, certainly not EDACS junk.

With all that money in Hamilton Co it doesn't mean they have any common sense, but they do know how to waste taxpayer $$, and not just on a worthless radio system none of the end users like, but look at the $$ they are wasting on trying to annex Giest. Oh well, at least Westfield got a little brains and switched to SAFET.
The county is supposed to build a new dispatch center that was to cover the whole county, curious how Westfields defection affects that?

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[seanb580]

With all that money in Hamilton Co it doesn't mean they have any common sense, but they do know how to waste taxpayer $$, and not just on a worthless radio system none of the end users like, but look at the $$ they are wasting on trying to annex Giest. Oh well, at least Westfield got a little brains and switched to SAFET.
The county is supposed to build a new dispatch center that was to cover the whole county, curious how Westfields defection affects that?

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Well the whole annexation thing is a local thing in fishers, the county itself has nothing to do with it. I don't understand westfield, because they are dispatched by noblesville, therefore noblesville would have to be going to be going onto the system as well?? That's weird.

 

[Dispatch2323]

Westfield will stay on the current countywide system. Safe-T radios are being put in cars so they 1) have a back up and 2) can communicate with Boone County.

 

[seanb580]

you say cars? what about the FD? The FD would be talking to boone county more than the PD.

 

[Dispatch2323]

I meant cars in general. All PD & FD vehicles have/will have safe-t radios.

 

[W9NES]

Dispatch 2323.I had a news release that came across from Westfield PD that was sent out to the NewsMedia that was telling the media that Westfield was going to Safe-t and would be the first law Enforcement agency in Hamilton County to make this move to the new system.Westfield Fire is allready on Safe-t.If you will check RR Database under Hamilton County you will see the talkgroups listed. Hope this helps.

 

[seanb580]

Westfield FD is still dispatched by Noblesville. Noblesville is still using the EDACS system. I can hear Westfield FD on my non digital scanner today being dispatched on runs and using the EDACS system during the run.

 

[W9NES]

Sir,Westfield fire is still dispatched by Noblesville but they are on safe-t.When the are marking back in service from a run.They are telling Noblesville that they are going back to safe-t.I have heard them telling Noblesville Dispatch this numerious times...If you will refer back to my last posting I had a News Release that came across my desk about westfield PD going to Safe-t and they would be the first Law Enforcement agency in Hamilton County to go to Safe-t.They will be keeping Edacs as a backup.If I can find the NewsRelease I will send it to you by PM. Thanks

 

[seanb580]

I'm a carmel Firefighter, and a former westfield firefighter, they are not on safe t. they may be planning to do it, but as of right now, they are not on safe t. I'm not trying to start an argument. I can't speak for the PD, I know WPD officers currently have safe t radios in their cars mainly for use to talk with ISP.
I can only hope that you are correct about Westfield using safe t for their primary comm, then that will mean that the agencies within Hamilton Co. will not be able to talk to each other and hopefully we can get rid of the crappy EDACS system.

 

[Viper43]

I'm a carmel Firefighter, and a former westfield firefighter, they are not on safe t. they may be planning to do it, but as of right now, they are not on safe t. I'm not trying to start an argument. I can't speak for the PD, I know WPD officers currently have safe t radios in their cars mainly for use to talk with ISP.
I can only hope that you are correct about Westfield using safe t for their primary comm, then that will mean that the agencies within Hamilton Co. will not be able to talk to each other and hopefully we can get rid of the crappy EDACS system.

Thats nice... but THEY ARE on SAFET, who is dispatching them, who knows, but they indeed are on SAFET it was even in the papers (Star North & both Noblesville papers had articles) that they were indeed switching to SAFET full time, they may however be simulcast on the county system.

Also, the land grabbing in Hamilton county isn't just by Fishers, Carmel and Westfield have, and continue to be land grabbers. And yes, the county DOSE have something to do with it as they have to approve of such actions considering the land thats getting grabbed up IS county land. If the county had any balls they'ed put a stop to it, but once again they show they are clueless, just as with their actions with the radio systems.

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[seanb580]

Thats nice... but THEY ARE on SAFET, who is dispatching them, who knows, but they indeed are on SAFET it was even in the papers (Star North & both Noblesville papers had articles) that they were indeed switching to SAFET full time, they may however be simulcast on the county system.

Also, the land grabbing in Hamilton county isn't just by Fishers, Carmel and Westfield have, and continue to be land grabbers. And yes, the county DOSE have something to do with it as they have to approve of such actions considering the land thats getting grabbed up IS county land. If the county had any balls they'ed put a stop to it, but once again they show they are clueless, just as with their actions with the radio systems.

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i'm not trying to make anyone angry here. Yes, WFD has talkgroups on safe t, but it isn't their primary system, the EDACS system is the primary system.
If you go and read my post, I didn't say that Fishers is the only City doing land grabbing, I was only stating that the whole geist thing was STARTED by Fishers. Carmel has annexed as well as Westfield and even Noblesville. I'm not sure who does the approving on the annexations, maybe it is the county, I don't know. Usually, anymore around here, it is a County judge that determines the outcome because everyone fights it.
They are clueless when it comes to radio systems, I couldn't agree more.

 

[zerobleu]

i'm not trying to make anyone angry here. Yes, WFD has talkgroups on safe t, but it isn't their primary system, the EDACS system is the primary system.
If you go and read my post, I didn't say that Fishers is the only City doing land grabbing, I was only stating that the whole geist thing was STARTED by Fishers. Carmel has annexed as well as Westfield and even Noblesville. I'm not sure who does the approving on the annexations, maybe it is the county, I don't know. Usually, anymore around here, it is a County judge that determines the outcome because everyone fights it.
They are clueless when it comes to radio systems, I couldn't agree more.

Sean is correct. Westfield is currently on the CW EDACS system and in the business we have heard NO talk of them going to SAFE-T as a primary system. They do have talk groups issued on the system, as does Hamilton County who also does not use the system. They are still dispatched by Noblesville Communications and Noblesville is scheduled to begin co-locating with the county communications center sometime w/in the next year or so once the South End Expansion is complete on the Jail Facility.

Noblesville Communications and the County have a good relationship if they were using a different system to dispatch just one agency in the county I'm sure the two other PSAP's in the county would be aware of it.

ON the EDACS system note, I also agree with most of you. The system is behind the times and we are becoming an island in the radio world. We are relying on 3rd party solutions to interoperate between neighboring counties and if this with Westfield does turn out it will only make things worse for our in county operations. I don’t think the safe-t system is a good option for the entire county to go to due to the growth rates here and the large number of users the county wishes to allow access on the system, however, I do think that we should say Hello Moto and operate our own system that can be used in conjunction with Safe-T.

 

[W9NES]

Thanks Viper 43 for the backup.To set the record straight Westfield PD is on Safe-t as I have posted as per a NewsRelaease From Westfield PD that came across my desk at the station I work for.As far as the issue of Westfield Fire, Granted they mayabe on EDACS but radio traffic has been heard with Noblesville and Hamilton County that when they are going"Back in service" they have been telling them that they are going back to Safe-t.I am not trying to start anything here but this is the radio traffic I have been hearing on the EDACS System with Noblesville and Hamilton County Fire Control.....

 

[SCPD]

I'm a carmel Firefighter, and a former westfield firefighter, they are not on safe t. they may be planning to do it, but as of right now, they are not on safe t. I'm not trying to start an argument. I can't speak for the PD, I know WPD officers currently have safe t radios in their cars mainly for use to talk with ISP.
I can only hope that you are correct about Westfield using safe t for their primary comm, then that will mean that the agencies within Hamilton Co. will not be able to talk to each other and hopefully we can get rid of the crappy EDACS system.

I hate to be the person with bad news but Hamilton County is building a new EDACS Digital system right now they have already statered building the new towers if you are a Carmel FF you should know where 106th and Hazel Del is and Hazel dell park at the corner of 106th and Hazel Dell there is is a new tower going up for the new system granted it is not a verry good one but never the less it is going up. As i have been told Westfeild is the only agency going to Safe T and the rest will be on the new system and they are working on getting all of hamilton County under 1 dispatch roof like MECA. I still dont have all the info on it yet when I get it I will post it as a Carmel FF I would have thought you would have goten this info by now. There is a lot of Simocasting going on beetwwen the agencys as well. Hopefully they will add new sites on the west side of carmel 106th michigan area as I know Carmel has radio issues in building over there. Safe T for Hamilton County is not much better than the EDACS right now.