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Just remember that unless you have a VERY GOOD signal, UNITRUNKER can (and does) show some weird frequencies.
 

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I just noticed your post. See my thread with a somewhat similar issue in Bloomington:

http://forums.radioreference.com/in...3-bloomington-safe-t-site-866-2500-issue.html

You may be having the same issue I had, which was resolved by setting the Digital End Code detection: Digital End Code detection - The RadioReference Wiki.

My guess is that what you were locking out was actually talkgroups, not frequencies.

Since this problem affects multiple scanner users on the Bloomington site, and it just recently started happening, I'd venture to guess there's some sort of problem with the transmitter not unkeying on 866.2500 MHz sometimes after user transmissions are done.

Kevin
Kevin -

Thanks a bunch, that seems to have taken care of my problem.

Ron
 

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I was doing Site 5 and it found additional Freq on it too. Been having trouble with UniTrunker though so I won't do a DB update unless I can verify them.
 

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Here are some PDF shots of UniTrunker on Marrs Center Site. It had at least one channel different than RR and I submitted the change for the Alt control channel. I ran UniTrunker for about 24 hours on this site and had traffic on every voice channel. I also did Henderson, KY site but it came up exactly like the RR DB so it didn't need an update. Now working on Evansville Post site.
 
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I submitted info for Marrs Center which differed from RR DB and it says it was completed but they only changed the ALT CC not the other info. I just submitted info for Site 5 Evansville which also is different than what is in the RR DB. I ran UniTrunker for over 24 hours taking my feed offline to get the data and it appears they don't want it. I guess the good thing is the 996 series only needs the CC data.
 
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I submitted info for Marrs Center which differed from RR DB and it says it was completed but they only changed the ALT CC not the other info. I just submitted info for Site 5 Evansville which also is different than what is in the RR DB. I ran UniTrunker for over 24 hours taking my feed offline to get the data and it appears they don't want it. I guess the good thing is the 996 series only needs the CC data.

download Trunk88 and run it on the CC and see if the data is the same...I always try to verify what I'm seeing on Trunk88 with Unitrunker or vise versa

but I do know what you mean...I sent in new Freqs for Graysville and they changed the CC and alt CC but left the Freqs both programs where showing no longer in use and didnt add the new ones... so go figure
 

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Trunk88

I think I tried TRUNK88 once and it didn't want to work for me. Took me some time before I was able to get UniTrunker to work. The guy who wrote it couldn't fiqure out why it wouldn't work because I did everything he said and nothing. Then one day I tried again and it worked fine. I did have some stabilty isssues with UniTrunker a day or so ago but I fixed that and it has been rock solid ever since. (ver 19) Maybe they don't update the other info because the Uniden's just use the CC data.:p

Isn't TRUNK88 the one that requires audio input for it to work? I don't have a DATA slicer I jsut use my 996XT's rear port with UniTrunker. At any rate I submitted the data, if they use it fine if not well, I tried!
 

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Isn't TRUNK88 the one that requires audio input for it to work? I don't have a DATA slicer I jsut use my 996XT's rear port with UniTrunker. At any rate I submitted the data, if they use it fine if not well, I tried!

yeah...Im not sure if the unidens have the CC dump feature like the 500 and 600s do
 

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time for dispatchers to fill the gap....PATCH baby PATCH...dont make emergency responders worry about what talkgroup there on when they can all be patched together...then tell them your PATCHed and can go direct with the CIC or the Fire Chief
Only problem with patching is that it can hog an inordinate amount of system resources. A console patch of a talkgroup typically takes up two voice channels per site. Get a couple of those going, and you've got the lower capacity sites tied up.
 

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Only problem with patching is that it can hog an inordinate amount of system resources. A console patch of a talkgroup typically takes up two voice channels per site. Get a couple of those going, and you've got the lower capacity sites tied up.

yep..I understand that completely also...running Trunk88 on tower 08 with only 4 available voice channels, more than a few times a day or hour their are bumps from ALL 4 VOICE CHANNELS in use!!! lol....can't figure out why there are only 4 voice channels for a tower or less with some towers....you would think it would be a min of 8 or 10 voice channels per tower
 

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Freq's updated guys. Those changes were made with the CC changes, not sure why they didn't take, but it's been fixed :)
 

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Freq's updated guys. Those changes were made with the CC changes, not sure why they didn't take, but it's been fixed :)

I was to the point where I wasn't going to waste any time running software to get FREQ and CC info from towers only to have RR update CC info and forget about the voice channels info. It claims to be updated but Site 5 still shows way too many FREQ as voice channles as does site 30. With rebanding coming up, I assumed that info for sites would be used and welcome. Now, I see why people just give up and stop doing updates.
 

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yeah...Im not sure if the unidens have the CC dump feature like the 500 and 600s do

The XT has CC data from the serial port. (Either front or rear) With UniTrunker you can use that to get the Site DATA. I did Evansville Post Tower and got Fewer FREQ than RR had in the DB. (but they didn't take the changes) At one point they ran out of Voice channels during my UniTrunker run and had to use the Alt CC as a voice channels. Now that doesn't happen very often on any sites I listen to. Most favor a couple of FREQ over others. Like the Post Tower uses 2 FREQ quite often, and another voice channels rarely, and even that once had to use the ALT CC as the other voice channels were all busy.
 

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I was to the point where I wasn't going to waste any time running software to get FREQ and CC info from towers only to have RR update CC info and forget about the voice channels info. It claims to be updated but Site 5 still shows way too many FREQ as voice channles as does site 30. With rebanding coming up, I assumed that info for sites would be used and welcome. Now, I see why people just give up and stop doing updates.


OK site 5 was worked by KD4YGG and site 30 was worked by myself.

I put site 30 in exactly as submitted the first time but it appears the update did not take. I just fixed site 5, not sure why it wasn't changed. No need to be frustrated. It was just a simple mistake. All one needs to do is contact myself or KD4YGG via Email or PM :) We are happy to respond. I did not see your above posts until I responded to them. I just looked at the sites and they are now both in as you submitted them :cool:

Anyone can feel free to PM or Email me @ scannerfreak[at]radioreference.com especially with submission questions and/or concerns. I have many people who submit straight to my Email, which is fine :)
 
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OK site 5 was worked by KD4YGG and site 30 was worked by myself.

I put site 30 in exactly as submitted the first time but it appears the update did not take. I just fixed site 5, not sure why it wasn't changed. No need to be frustrated. It was just a simple mistake. All one needs to do is contact myself or KD4YGG via Email or PM :) We are happy to respond. I did not see your above posts until I responded to them. I just looked at the sites and they are now both in as you submitted them :cool:

Anyone can feel free to PM or Email me @ scannerfreak[at]radioreference.com especially with submission questions and/or concerns.

I did contact him by PM several times. He said they were updated and when I went to the Database the old data was still there. I think site 5, last time I looked, had something like 8 FREQ listed. The FREQ I submit are after extensive runs on tower sites and if my software is not working properly I don't submit erroneous data. This is the case of the Boonville site when I got something like 20 channels show up because I had too weak of a signal. I did post about it in above posts to see what the problem may have been. At any rate I updated the info in my scanners anyway.
 

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Vincennes Site

I see Site 5 and 30 were updated. While I was looking I saw Vincennes shows only 1 voice channel. If I get the time and motivation, I will take my XT up there with the laptop and run that site to see what comes up. I'd have my brother do it (as he does a Vincennes feed) but he doesn't have an XT. May even stop and see what happens with Gibson Co. (Princeton) as that is on the way. Been considering running Boonville but that also requires a road trip. (Because the signal from Boonville to my house is too weak)

BTW: Thanks ScannerFreak for fixing that makes me feel like my efforts were not wasted.
 

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Absolutely they aren't wasted. Not sure why the updates did not take the first time. In the future feel free to contact me anytime you need anything :)
 

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My BC796D is receiving a "New" talk group on the Henderson KY site. 22664 is confirmed but it is the dreaded "ENC". Anyone know who is using this T/G?
 

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My BC796D is receiving a "New" talk group on the Henderson KY site. 22664 is confirmed but it is the dreaded "ENC". Anyone know who is using this T/G?

Looks like you are hearing:

22656 87 WCE DET County Law Enforcement Investigations

+8 which is the DES Encryption talkgroup Status bit would equal 22664.

Remember, all valid SAFE-T talkgroups will be evenly divisible by 16. All others are status bits :)
 
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