Omni-X vs. MilTenna Omni vs. Air Omni

N9JIG

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I have had a DPD Productions Omni-X antenna for a couple years and it has performed fairly well, but not quite as well as I had hoped. For a couple years it was up in the attic and then about 6 months ago I mounted the Omni-X outside on the side of my house. I tried a couple orientations and I think the original one (elements facing E-W seemed to work best for me.

A few months in it seemed to lose some performance, I don’t really know why but I was no longer able to hear the Flagstaff or Tucson WX stations (I like to use NOAA stations as beacons for performance measuring). It could be propagation changes when the weather warms or perhaps there was something else going on. I replaced the Omni-X with an ST-2 and expected a huge difference, there wasn’t. I also replaced the lightning arrestor, that had no effect.

So in thinking about it I suspect the Omni-X was actually performing slightly better than my ST-2 and I have been considering putting it back up. I decided however to do some research and when looking at the DPD website they actually have 3 versions of the “X” type antenna:
  • Omni-X
  • MilTenna Omni
  • Air Omni
From the descriptions I could find little difference between the 3. The Omni-X showed a coax length of 16 inches vs. 24 for the other two, but that should have no bearing on the performance. All 3 showed dimensions of 45” H and 30” W. The “Tuned” frequency ranges were identical on the Air And Mil versions (225-400, 118-137 and 138-140) while the Omni-X shows 118-137, 148-175 and 225-900.

As I am impressed by the build quality of the Omni-X that I have I decided to try one of the others to compare. Since as far as I could tell from the pictures and descriptions the “Air” and “Mil” versions were the same I decided to get a MilTenna Omni. It arrived a couple days later and I compared the physical dimensions with my Omni-X.

The stem was the same on both: about 34.5 inches. The coax length was indeed a few inches shorter on the Omni. The 2 longer elements on both were the same: 22.5 inches) but the “Mil” version had longer short elements at 21 inches vs. 17.5 on the “Omni”.

The one that surprised me was the size on the metal shafts in which the elements attach. I almost didn’t notice but the “Mil” version shafts were 9 inches vs 7 for the “Omni”.

I don’t know for sure at this point whether this will make much of a difference, but I suspect that with slightly longer shafts and elements I might get more capture area and somewhat better performance.

It will be a bit before I am able to mount the MilTenna Omni, it is going to be above 110 degrees for the next couple weeks or so. I plan on removing the ST-2 and replacing the plastic pipe used as a mast. I want to try to find a metal one instead but also want to find a solution to reduce the diameter of the mast where the antenna mounts, the plastic pipe is too large to properly attach the brackets. I am using a satellite dish mount, and the ID is quite a bit larger than a standard antenna mast. When I remove it I will figure a way to reduce to a smaller size, probably involving inserting a smaller pipe into the larger and using the bolts holding the pipe to the bracket to secure it. That however is a project for Future Rich when we get a break in the heat around here.

If anyone here has an “Air Omni and can measure the elements and shaft please let me know, I am curious if they are actually the same as the MilTenna Omni.
 

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The one that surprised me was the size on the metal shafts in which the elements attach. I almost didn’t notice but the “Mil” version shafts were 9 inches vs 7 for the “Omni”.

I don’t know for sure at this point whether this will make much of a difference, but I suspect that with slightly longer shafts and elements I might get more capture area and somewhat better performance.
That's the UHF part of the antenna. For MIL you only go up to 400MHz so the wavelength will be longer compared to higher frequencies. But you probably won't notice any changes in signal strength doing 800MHz monitoring with the standard and MIL version side by side.

/Ubbe
 

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I am very glad you can get an outside antenna put up! Interesting observations about the three omni antennas. My choice was the mil omni as well. I already have the Log Periodic but the mil omni gets used during Red Flag. Nothing bad to say about my experience with the DPD antennas. They stand up to strong winds as we had last week in Vegas. Please post when you have it up and working.
 

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Well, I got the Mil-Omni the other day and we had a couple sub-100 degree days so I put it up. It worked slightly better than the ST-2. I suspect I have a coax issue as the Omni-X worked so much better at first but stopped working as well, the ST-2 and the Mil-Omni had the same poor performance. It is still too hot to work in the attic to swap out the coax, it will have to wait until the late fall.
 

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I‘d like to see a sweep of those two DPD antenna….middle of the yard away from things.
118-140
140-200
200-380/400
850-950 would be nice too
 

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So now it is a couple weeks in to the Mil-Omni. I suspect that the performance issues I had with the Omni-X and ST-2 were from the near connector. The coax I have on this is the fairly stiff Air-10 LMR400 type and coming down into the wall it has to make a pretty serious bend to the patch panel. Thankfully this is a "wet wall", the other side is the laundry room so the interior of that wall is wider. Even with this there was not enough clearance for this stiff coax to make a easy bend and eventually the outer casing started to crack and I suspect that there was a pull-apart on the N connector.

I went to HRO and bought a replacement solder-less N-Connector and cut off the last 6 or 8 inches of the coax in the office, trimmed it out and screwed on the new connector. This time however I just ran it out a hole and connected the patch cable to it with a double-female. It worked a lot better! I tried to see if I could reach it out to the radio desk directly but it was just long enough to make it to the wall hole.

I have one or two more if these stiff cables, so I will be replacing the connectors on them. To continue using the patch panel I will pop on a 90-degree adapter on each. If that introduces issues I will enlarge the hole and run it straight out like this one.

Even before the new multicoupler (See that story here: Scanner Tales: Rolling my own (Multicoupler, that is)) it was working much better.

When things cool down a bit here I will be replacing the plastic pipe being used as a mast with the metal ones I got recently from ChannelMaster. I bought 2 5-foot masts, I will see how sturdy it is with both but will likely end up just using one.

This winter I plan on replacing some of my coax runs for the antennas I actually every day with LMR400 SuperFlex. It has better loss ratings and is a lot easier to work with. I am debating on whether to buy a 500 foot roll and cut each length to fit or get a mix of 50 and 75 foot pre-made cables. I only need 4 these days so it should not be a huge production to replace them.

Regardless, I am happy with the performance as it is. When it cools down enough I might swap the ST-2 back up there to see how it stacks up to the Mil-Omni but I think in the end the Mil-Omni is going to win out. It is less obtrusive visually (important in the HOA I live in) and unless the ST-2 dramatically outperforms it I will stick with it.
 
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