virtualspin315
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UPDATE
new tower locations for Oneida County VHF P25 Trunking system
Call Sign WRFE885
new tower locations for Oneida County VHF P25 Trunking system
Call Sign WRFE885
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Oneida County VHF P25 Trunking?
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Anyone know what TG 65048 is for? The conversation that I recorded involved two mobile units (485 and 486) testing with a lieutenant. I'm guessing these units belong to the Oneida County Sheriff.
A lot of testing on 65024 past 2 days. Anyone have a clue as to its use yet?
This TG also "roams" on the Oswego County towers. It has been roaming on there for a while, but have only heard "radio repair" on there testing as well. I have noticed tonight that after the technician does a count down, there is some sort of automated voice announcement afterwards, but trying to understand what its saying is not very clear.
I haven't checked to see if its roaming on Madison's towers. With it roaming on towers here, I suspect that it could be for some sort of interop within the different counties. But too early to tell. Not enough info to gather just yet.
the automated is played to test audio levels. not sure, but i think i heard Oneida 911 do a test count too on the tg too
If it was just normal interop between the counties you wouldn't see all the testing. So Oneida is up to something else. Roaming talkgroups are commonplace and well understood so there wouldn't be that degree of testing. Oneida has been supposedly working towards P25 over LTE. Something like that would need some fairly extensive testing like you are seeing.
@studgeman they were testing LTE <-> P25 last year for some OEM Members seemed to work really well, I believe they were using WAVE
Its a tech with a lot of caveats and what ifs and maybes. There are just a lot of moving parts to get the guarantee and quality of service required for public safety operations. There was a fairly significant upgrade that they needed to enable WAVE on the CNYICC. Last I knew it hadn't been installed but that knowledge is dated by a few months. Its not something I have been following too closely. If this is WAVE testing, this opens up significant opportunities beyond just WAVE.
Did this project come to a halt because of the Coronavirus? I haven't seen any sign of a new tower in the town of Annsville (off Rt 69).
There are a lot of moving parts to getting a tower site built including permits and approvals. Most of those all have legislated timelines, 60-90 days etc. for each step. Then you get into soil testing, bid/contracts for construction. Also considering the spring, or lack thereof, having shovels in the ground isn't a forgone conclusion. Also consider the tower foundation requires drawings and templates from the tower manufacturer, they may not be running at 100% right now. COVID-19 hasn't legally stopped construction on the radio systems in NY, Due to other factors, many times in other states, it may not be moving forward at full blast. If you feel like digging through bureaucracy, go look for the section 106 TNCS notification on the ULS. That will give you an idea of where the process is.
virtualspin315
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TG 7118 T Oneida Indian Nation Police has been heard on the Oneida Simulcast system for the last week.
When I read the display I thought it was Madison County but I didn’t have that system turned on! Thanks
I always have Search ID turned on, living east of Utica has been a problem with Simulcast for me. I can only pick it up with an outside antenna or mag mount on my car. Do you have any suggestions for me?
virtualspin315
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Oneida Lake Water Rescue Calls. Sylvan Beach Fire and Cleveland Fire command TAC channel is
12 T Onondaga County TAC-12 on Oneida County P25 system
66 T Madison County Event Tac 4 also on Oneida County P25 system
12 T Onondaga County TAC-12 on Oneida County P25 system
66 T Madison County Event Tac 4 also on Oneida County P25 system
You'll hear them across then entire CNYICC. Those are all regional TAC channels, and heard system wide. TAC 12 is nothing new. Its been used for years as a TAC channel for Oneida Lake Incidents. It roams across all CNYICC systems. Used by Brewerton, Bridgeport, W Monroe, Constantia, Cleveland, N Bay, South Bay, or anyone on an Oneida Lake incident.
Has anyone noticed moderate interference on 154.37 Fire Control since the system has been online? Outside antenna at 70 feet. Maybe its just my location
What’s your definition of interference?
I can't say I've noticed anything unexpected. Everything I've noticed is simulcast distortion right where it should be. There are not enough towers to get the delay spread within the analog tolerance so there are some nasty distorted areas.
Prospect62
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I noticed severe distortion in March and April 2019, right about the time we started using the new system in earnest. It was absolutely horrendous. Since then, the conventional signals have much improved and I notice almost zero distortion anymore. There has been a slight uptick over the last few weeks in weird interference and digital noise, but nothing like it once was. I am absolutely delighted that I can still listen to Oneida County Law and Fire on my old, smooth and mellow Bearcat Electra III. I hope that by the time they switch off the conventional system that SDS200 prices will have come down a bit.
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Does anyone know if the Talcottville P25 site is active yet?
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Prospect62
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I just saw this today, if you can believe that.
Good info and stuff I hadn't thought of. Although I have to say I am still confused, as the Burrstone, Higby and COB sites are all within a handful of miles of each other. I'm not getting how Smith Hill/NYPA would be too close to Higby/Burrstone.
