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plaws

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I'm sorry, I can't help it. Between the minor in Geography and the Masters in regional and city planning, I just can't get enough.

Here's how I see it:

Province of Ontario

Cops everywhere with a few exceptions.
Provincial Highways


Upper-tier municipalities
(counties, regions - names don't mean anything for the most part)

EMS (Used to be provincial)
County/Region Highways (many of which used to be provincial)

Lower-tier municipalities
(cities,towns, townships, villages, municipalities - names don't mean anything for the most part)

Fire protection
Streets
Solid Waste management
Water/Sewer

Single-tier municipalities
(Size doesn't matter - could be Toronto, could be Cockburn Island)

All municipal services in southern Ontario - things are different in the north where there are almost no "upper-tier municipalities" - I assume OPP does policing there.

Since I live here now, I have been boning up on this stuff and editing some pages in the wiki. I think I will create one that lists all police departments in the province that point to the relevant DB and wiki entries.

I'm aware of the OPP (duh) and that MNR Conservation Officers have the same powers as the OPP (at least within Parks/MNR facilities). Toronto (ex-Metropolitan Toronto) and Ottawa (ex-Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton) have PDs ... but who else? Hamilton, probably (ex-RM of Hamilton-Wentworth)? Peel Region maybe?

I'm certain there are more, I just don't know who they are.

Here in UCPR, it's all OPP, all the time. I think SDG is the same, with the exception of Cornwall which is single-tier and "separated" from the county.

So reply with municipal PDs, please, regardless of "tier".

Oh, and I've noticed that in every day life, the nuances the Ontario Municipal Act of 2001 are largely ignored by regular people. :)
 

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I'm sorry, I can't help it. Between the minor in Geography and the Masters in regional and city planning, I just can't get enough.

Here's how I see it:

Province of Ontario

Cops everywhere with a few exceptions.
Provincial Highways


Upper-tier municipalities
(counties, regions - names don't mean anything for the most part)

EMS (Used to be provincial)
County/Region Highways (many of which used to be provincial)

Lower-tier municipalities
(cities,towns, townships, villages, municipalities - names don't mean anything for the most part)

Fire protection
Streets
Solid Waste management
Water/Sewer

Single-tier municipalities
(Size doesn't matter - could be Toronto, could be Cockburn Island)

All municipal services in southern Ontario - things are different in the north where there are almost no "upper-tier municipalities" - I assume OPP does policing there.

Since I live here now, I have been boning up on this stuff and editing some pages in the wiki. I think I will create one that lists all police departments in the province that point to the relevant DB and wiki entries.

I'm aware of the OPP (duh) and that MNR Conservation Officers have the same powers as the OPP (at least within Parks/MNR facilities). Toronto (ex-Metropolitan Toronto) and Ottawa (ex-Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton) have PDs ... but who else? Hamilton, probably (ex-RM of Hamilton-Wentworth)? Peel Region maybe?

I'm certain there are more, I just don't know who they are.

Here in UCPR, it's all OPP, all the time. I think SDG is the same, with the exception of Cornwall which is single-tier and "separated" from the county.

So reply with municipal PDs, please, regardless of "tier".

Oh, and I've noticed that in every day life, the nuances the Ontario Municipal Act of 2001 are largely ignored by regular people. :)


Plaws: Didn't you live in Oklahoma? Back for the health care? How come you didn't move back to Montreal?
:)

Upper teir municipalities here in the GTA/GTHA:

Peel ,(which might be changed as our provincial gov't is bowing to Mississauga's whims and going to be its own city), Halton, Hamilton, Toronto, Durham, Niagara, Haldimand, Norfolk, Bruce, have their own police forces. They primarily stick to regional roads and not provincial roads although they are allowed to.

Guelph has its own police, the OPP take care of the rest of Wellington County, Brantford has its own police. The OPP police outside the city of Brantford. The Nation Reserve have their own police and use the provincial radio system.

York Region have their own police, the OPP do the provincial roads. In Waterloo Region the cities of Cambridge, Kitchener and Waterloo have their own police and also take care of the Region except provincial roads.

There isn't much communication on radio anyways between the region/County police forces and the OPP, they do tests occasionally late at night or during events.

This is all I know by heart and again welcome back to Canada Plaws!

Sorry: Bruce Co is OPP as far as I know and has a few First Nations Reserves. I've heard the Reserves using the provincial system using Romeo call signs.

The Ministry of Transportation Enforcement units have policing powers anywhere in the province. I'm not sure of the MNR, I hear them sometimes down here on FleetNet.
 

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Plaws: Didn't you live in Oklahoma? Back for the health care? How come u didn't move back to Montreal?
:)
Yes, and 3 other states. Montréal is a great city ... we are ~8 km from the provincial boundary (by road - less if you measure to the Ottawa River!) so family is close. Spouse wants to continue her business and while ON is no paradise, she didn't want to have to deal with QC language law on top of everything else. And she attended francophone school all the way until CÉGEP so it's not like she's unilingual.

Thanks for the other replies and to the person that posted the URL for the provincial list!
 

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I hear you on the language issues. Both you and me are just 2 of many who left. But this isn't a place for politics, lol.

Welcome back eh!
 

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Perhaps this is the list you want;

Hey - wow - thanks! 56 PDs listed - more than I would have expected. RCMP, OPP, 7 that appear to be First Nation departments, 6 with "region" in the name, one with "park" in the name, and the rest named for their municipality, whether it's Toronto or Saugeen Shores.

Thanks!
 

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Looks like Walpole Island Police (Bkejwanong Territory) was missing from that list. They are in Lambton County with a 6 Mike 700 call sign with OPP.

Moravian Town Native Reserve has their own dept in Chatham-Kent with a 6 Papa 700 callsign with OPP.

Chippewas of the Thames , Oneida, Delaware of the Thames in Middlesex County use 6 Juliet 700 with OPP.
 

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I'm sorry, I can't help it. Between the minor in Geography and the Masters in regional and city planning, I just can't get enough.

Here's how I see it:

Province of Ontario

Cops everywhere with a few exceptions.
Provincial Highways


Upper-tier municipalities
(counties, regions - names don't mean anything for the most part)

EMS (Used to be provincial)
County/Region Highways (many of which used to be provincial)

Lower-tier municipalities
(cities,towns, townships, villages, municipalities - names don't mean anything for the most part)

Fire protection
Streets
Solid Waste management
Water/Sewer

Single-tier municipalities
(Size doesn't matter - could be Toronto, could be Cockburn Island)

All municipal services in southern Ontario - things are different in the north where there are almost no "upper-tier municipalities" - I assume OPP does policing there.

Since I live here now, I have been boning up on this stuff and editing some pages in the wiki. I think I will create one that lists all police departments in the province that point to the relevant DB and wiki entries.

I'm aware of the OPP (duh) and that MNR Conservation Officers have the same powers as the OPP (at least within Parks/MNR facilities). Toronto (ex-Metropolitan Toronto) and Ottawa (ex-Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton) have PDs ... but who else? Hamilton, probably (ex-RM of Hamilton-Wentworth)? Peel Region maybe?

I'm certain there are more, I just don't know who they are.

Here in UCPR, it's all OPP, all the time. I think SDG is the same, with the exception of Cornwall which is single-tier and "separated" from the county.

So reply with municipal PDs, please, regardless of "tier".

Oh, and I've noticed that in every day life, the nuances the Ontario Municipal Act of 2001 are largely ignored by regular people. :)
In Ottawa, we have many Police Services including RCMP, O.P.P., Ottawa Police, Transit Police, Rail Police, Military Police..,
 

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Really interested only in municipal police this minute. The OPP are the municipal police in lots and lots of places and not just up in the northern Districts.

I think there are 6 regions (I feel like I'm missing one or more, but I'm probably just thinking of former Regions like Ottawa and Hamilton) and each have a Police Service. Many or most single-tiers have them too, of course, but so do some lower-tier municipalities like the Town of Saugeen Shores in Bruce County. An upper-tier that does not provide a Police Service.

I can't find a good like for MTO's "TEOs" which apparently have police powers. Although they are hiring, but they don't seem to have a web page of their own. Need to track down where I saw the bit about MNR's CO's being equivalent to OPP officers.
 

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I've got as many Ontario law enforcement agencies as I can find, so I will figure out a reasonable name and make it live Real Soon Now.

RCMP, First Nations, OPP, MNR COs/MOT TEOs, the big Single-tiers, plenty of Regions and lots of Lower-tier/smaller Single-tiers.
 

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Yes, and 3 other states. Montréal is a great city ... we are ~8 km from the provincial boundary (by road - less if you measure to the Ottawa River!) so family is close. Spouse wants to continue her business and while ON is no paradise, she didn't want to have to deal with QC language law on top of everything else. And she attended francophone school all the way until CÉGEP so it's not like she's unilingual.

Thanks for the other replies and to the person that posted the URL for the provincial list!
Me too Ontario-California-Texas-Washington-New York-?? Maybe Ontario next.
 

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Really interested only in municipal police this minute. The OPP are the municipal police in lots and lots of places and not just up in the northern Districts.

I can't find a good like for MTO's "TEOs" which apparently have police powers. Although they are hiring, but they don't seem to have a web page of their own. Need to track down where I saw the bit about MNR's CO's being equivalent to OPP officers.

Many municipal policing services are indeed provided by OPP. Those that are not are larger centers Like Toronto, London, Hamilton etc. It appears that all non OPP Police local services in the province are encrypted. The OPP is in the process of migrating to a 100 encrypted new system.

Other Law enforcement services such as MNR, Rail, MTO, BCSA etc. Have severely curtailed policing powers. Their authority usually covers only the specifics of what that department enforces. It would take extremely weird circumstances for example a MNR officer to issue a speeding citation. Not that it could not happen BUT it would be a one in a million set of circumstances.

Private security is even more limited in their authority. Generally no firearms, super limited arrest (usually limited to detaining until full LE arrives) and limited to only the specific property being "guarded".
The notable exception is money transport security. They are restricted to securing the money and nothing else. Their rules of engagement are super specific. If you are considering a career in LE in Ontario you will find it rewarding and enjoyable. Canadians tend to be more laidback and less confrontational. I wish you luck if this is your desire.
 

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Many municipal policing services are indeed provided by OPP. Those that are not are larger centers Like Toronto, London, Hamilton etc. It appears that all non OPP Police local services in the province are encrypted. The OPP is in the process of migrating to a 100 encrypted new system.

Other Law enforcement services such as MNR, Rail, MTO, BCSA etc. Have severely curtailed policing powers. Their authority usually convers only the specifics of what that department enforces. It would take extremely weird circumstances for example a MNR officer to issue a speeding citation. Not that it could not happen BUT it would be a one in a million set of circumstances. Private security is even more limited in their authority. Generally no firearms, super limited arrest (usually limited to detaining until full LE arrives) and limited to only the specific property being "guarded". The notable exception is money transport security. They are restricted to securing the money and nothing else. Their rules of engagement are super specific. If you are considering a career in LE in Ontario you will find it rewarding and enjoyable. Canadians tend to be more laidback and less confrontational. I wish you luck if this is your desire.
There are istill a small handful of police services in the clear in the province in addition to some of the Indigenous Police Services on FleetNet. However, I would imagine that those would stay on PSRN once the transition is complete.
 

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Added a Broadcastify Channel this morning for City of Kawartha Lakes Public Works/Roads.
Posted it on a variey of local Facebook Groups related to roads/weather.
Now expecting City workers to fill my driveway with snow all winter for broadcasting their chaos to the masses. lol
 

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Not too busy for the moment, but I did hear a unit on your feed on the air briefly. I'll tune in again during a weather event.
 

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There are istill a small handful of police services in the clear in the province in addition to some of the Indigenous Police Services on FleetNet. However, I would imagine that those would stay on PSRN once the transition is complete.
Can you post which police services other than the OPP that are still in the clear?
 
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