Orders my G5

[blackbelter]

Placed my G5 with the DMR flashed order With Rays yesterday . Great savings of $100 off the listing price with an additional 3 years of warranty support ( over $100 ) ( total 5 years ). I have no affiliation with Unication or Rays company . I also Spoke with Ray and he was knowledgeable , friendly and accommodating . I have already downloaded the PPS and getting familiarize with the programing . Thanks Ray .

 

[IAmSixNine]

Congratulations on the order. I have ordered several small batches of G4 and G5 for work through him and each time has been a breeze.

 

[blackbelter]

Thank you sir .

 

[belvdr]

Question on the G4/G5, as I have gotten confused. Can it only scan one system, such as Ohio MARCS, or one type, such as P25 Phase 1?

 

[blackbelter]

Yes, However the question can be best answered by saying quality VS quantities. Unication series are professional pagers and designed to enhance the experience. Friend of mine can capture a system as far as 32 miles from his post using a G4 and supplied stubby antenna at full quietening . Your experience however can be different.

 

[IAmSixNine]

Question on the G4/G5, as I have gotten confused. Can it only scan one system, such as Ohio MARCS, or one type, such as P25 Phase 1?

Its one system at a time. Phase 1 and or 2 does not matter. IT will pass audio from either.

 

[Hit_Factor]

Can you avoid talkgroups? Discover TGs?
How does it handle the one system, do you program in sites and freqs? How many sites will it handle?

 

[belvdr]

Its one system at a time. Phase 1 and or 2 does not matter. IT will pass audio from either.

By system, you mean Ohio MARCS or Indiana's SAFE-T, but not both, correct?

 

[IAmSixNine]

Correct, 1 SYSTEM at a time.
And when you select 1 system, it will lock onto 1 Site. It will look for other sites if you program in multiple sites but ONLY when it drops below a pre determined signal level. There are systems near me that this is an issue as certain sites pass audio for certain agencies. So its important for me to be on a specific site and stay there. All systems vary so this may not apply to you.

 

[blackbelter]

Would my G5 which will be programed with one system and one site under that systems control channels scans the entire system or only the programed Talk groups? Scan ID VS Scan Search.
Sorry for the long sentence.

 

[N6ML]

Would my G5 which will be programed with one system and one site under that systems control channels scans the entire system or only the programed Talk groups? Scan ID VS Scan Search.

You can configure a knob position for "Trunking TG-Scan", with a list of talkgroups that you want to hear (optionally in priority order) or "Trunking TG-Monitor", which will play messages from any talkgroup that shows up on the system.

Short answer: "yes"

 

[blackbelter]

Thank you,I will be programing ALL the control channels at once with each knob programed with specific targeted talk groups to scan. correct?

 

[N6ML]

Thank you,I will be programing ALL the control channels at once with each knob programed with specific talk groups to scan. correct?

Yes. You configure "systems" (with sites and control channels) first, then configure talkgroups of interest, then configure knob positions which reference the system and a list of talkgroups.

 

[Hit_Factor]

Yes. You configure "systems" (with sites and control channels) first, then configure talkgroups of interest, then configure knob positions which reference the system and a list of talkgroups.

Could the Complete Michigan Public Safety Communication System be programmed or would it have to be split up? https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=100

 

[N6ML]

Could the Complete Michigan Public Safety Communication System be programmed or would it have to be split up? https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=100

There are some limits, like 8192 total talkgroups in a profile, 64 talkgroups in the scan list for each knob position. It depends on what you mean by "complete system".

 

[bob550]

And when you select 1 system, it will lock onto 1 Site. It will look for other sites if you program in multiple sites but ONLY when it drops below a pre determined signal level.

It's for that reason that you don't want to program multiple sites in one knob position. If different sites have similar but varying signal strengths, the G will switch to and hold the stronger site, potentially in mid-transmission.

 

[N6ML]

If different sites have similar but varying signal strengths, the G will switch to and hold the stronger site, potentially in mid-transmission.

I believe that that is incorrect. It only starts looking for a new site when the current one becomes considered "out of range" (believed to be based on decoding error rate, not signal strength).

 

[Hit_Factor]

There are some limits, like 8192 total talkgroups in a profile, 64 talkgroups in the scan list for each knob position. It depends on what you mean by "complete system".

By complete system I meant all of it. Sounds like probably not enough knob positions for sites. But seems like driving across southern MI could be easy enough.

 

[N6ML]

By complete system I meant all of it. Sounds like probably not enough knob positions for sites. But seems like driving across southern MI could be easy enough.

"All of it" could mean many different things.... like every single talkgroup in the scan list for one knob position, every possible combination of sites, etc.

As far as knob positions, the limit is 64 zones, each with 8 knob positions, so 512.

 

[bob550]

Could the Complete Michigan Public Safety Communication System be programmed or would it have to be split up? https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=100

That would be a lot for a G5 to swallow. Unless you plan to travel throughout the state, you'd only need to program sites local to you.