Muxlow
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I have 2 aegis uhf orions. If i were to get a 800mhz analog orion and put the feature strink into that radio and the aegis board, would it make that analog 800mhz into an 800mhz aegis radio?
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Orion Question
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WCRadioGuy
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No. If you put the feature string of the UHF Orions in the 800MHz, you would make the 800MHz radio completely unusable. The radio features are dependent on the ESN of the radio. If the ESN and feature strings do not match, the radio will not work.
Muxlow
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Ahhh. Okie doke. Was wondering.. since i had 2 uhf radios one was not aegis and the other was.. now they both are. Soo was 50/50 about it working for VHF and 800 radios aswell
mitaux8030
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It probably would work if you transferred the Aegis board, the IC holding the ESN and the feature encryption string. I don't think the ESN is tied in to the band of the radio - just the feature set. I've 're-banded' MRKs before (though nothing as drastic as an ESN IC change), and they're broadly equivalent to Orions.
Muxlow
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Guess once i grab a 800mhz orion ill give it a shot and see what happens
WCRadioGuy
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Good point on changing the Feature PROM from one radio to another. THis may work for you. This is how the manufacturer changes a bad board for a good one. I forgot about that.
ElroyJetson
Getting tired of all the stupidity.
The feature set is not tied to the band of the radio. It's only tied to the ESN, whatever radio it may be in.
Transfer the ESN and feature string and the features go to the new radio. But there are some limitations on how you do the swap. The feature strings have to be of the same length between the two radios or the swap won't work. (For example, a Jaguar 700P and a 7100IP have different feature string lengths
because the 700P only has 32 possible options, while a 7100IP has 40 possible options, so the 7100's
feature string is a few bytes longer.)
This does allow you to swap the feature set from, say, an LPE into an Orion or Jaguar 700P, so long as they're all radios that are only capable of up to feature number 32 and no more.
Elroy
Transfer the ESN and feature string and the features go to the new radio. But there are some limitations on how you do the swap. The feature strings have to be of the same length between the two radios or the swap won't work. (For example, a Jaguar 700P and a 7100IP have different feature string lengths
because the 700P only has 32 possible options, while a 7100IP has 40 possible options, so the 7100's
feature string is a few bytes longer.)
This does allow you to swap the feature set from, say, an LPE into an Orion or Jaguar 700P, so long as they're all radios that are only capable of up to feature number 32 and no more.
Elroy
radioman2001
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I have a similar problem with a VHF 50 w Orion CX model. The radio lost all it's frequency programing information. When we read the radio all the information was blank. We have tried the recovery route. We did find that the feature string was corrupted, after getting the original from Harris. We updated the firmware to GO4504 which is the latest we have. The only problem is it still will not load a personality, the program displays reties times 10 then fails. I suspect the actual EE prom is defective. I want to remove the serial number chip and install it on another board I have. Is the feature string in the serial number chip or is it located somewhere else? I have roughly 250 of these radios to take care of. Information like this would make it a lot easier to decide to replace a radio or just swap some boards around.
On another note does anyone know where the tuning information is stored, the EE prom or some other location?
On another note does anyone know where the tuning information is stored, the EE prom or some other location?
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mitaux8030
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The serial number IC is purely for that, just the serial number and nothing else.
The rest of the information is held in EEPROM, including tracking (tuning) info and the FEC.
Putting in a new EEPROM shouldn't be a problem if you run recovery and have recorded all the information from the radio previously. Even then, if you can't get the tracking info out, default tracking info is often 'close enough' for it to work OK.
The rest of the information is held in EEPROM, including tracking (tuning) info and the FEC.
Putting in a new EEPROM shouldn't be a problem if you run recovery and have recorded all the information from the radio previously. Even then, if you can't get the tracking info out, default tracking info is often 'close enough' for it to work OK.
radioman2001
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Well here is some interesting info, we read the radio with the serial number chip removed, all information was intact except the radio would only come up as a wide band radio, no tuning information for narrow band, even though it is both narrow and wide band. The radio did work TX/RX even after powering up with a EE prom error of 505.
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A radio without the ESN chip will function, it will just have NO features. Analog wideband only, no scan, no nothin. Ive done the ESN swap a few times, its not bad but god help you if you damage the board or the chip!
mitaux8030
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I've a 0552'ed (FEC fails CRC) MRK that I'm pretty sure scans conventional channels... shows as CNVCHN = 0, SYSGRP = 0 and TRKSYS = 0, not sure how many channels it will admit to memory, but it took my test load of 52 channels OK.
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