P25 "Out Of Range" Notification

[toutzen]

Good evening forum members,

I have recently been tasked with programming our new G5 pagers for the fire department. We only received 4 as a test bed (1 for myself in communications to play with, 3 for the chiefs). Due to some of the complexity of the programming, I used a neighboring department's G5 pager image and reversed engineered the settings. I have not touched the P25 system at all, but have added conventional channels and modified message tones and 2 tone protocols. I have reordered some of the channels in the groups with the exception of the 2 P25 Trunking - in those I only renamed the channels.

Now to my problem - When I loaded the profile for the neighboring department as a test, the P25 channel worked without fail. It scans for ~5 seconds and connects RFSS/Site 10/10. I migrated their profile to fit our current G5 model (it does support P25 trunking) and made the above changes. After switching to the P25 Trunked channel, it scans until time out and I receive an "Out Of Range" notification and cannot receive any traffic. Without having changed the protocol or any previous P25 settings, why is this happening?

I am scratching my head over this. Thanks!

 

[WX4JCW]

I noticed this on LWIN when I was in Bossier City for the last 3 weeks, normally I do not monitor the Shreveport Site but the Bossier City site went into site trunking one day and so I put the Shreveport site in and bam out of range on the G5 even though DSD was seeing it, turns out the RFSS and Site weren't being broadcast by the site properly, not the funny thing is even using wildcards it wouldn't work, so essentially a system issue

 

[IAmSixNine]

Common issues are the RFSS and site are both in HEX.. So if you have a system that is 10/10 it would be A/A in the software.
ON the pager it will show 10, but in the programming software its an A.
Other common issues are not programming in all the control and alternate control channels. Motorola has 1 primary and 3 alternates But other systems like Harris will utilize all frequencies as alternates and primaries.

 

[maus92]

Good evening forum members,

I have recently been tasked with programming our new G5 pagers for the fire department. We only received 4 as a test bed (1 for myself in communications to play with, 3 for the chiefs). Due to some of the complexity of the programming, I used a neighboring department's G5 pager image and reversed engineered the settings. I have not touched the P25 system at all, but have added conventional channels and modified message tones and 2 tone protocols. I have reordered some of the channels in the groups with the exception of the 2 P25 Trunking - in those I only renamed the channels.

Now to my problem - When I loaded the profile for the neighboring department as a test, the P25 channel worked without fail. It scans for ~5 seconds and connects RFSS/Site 10/10. I migrated their profile to fit our current G5 model (it does support P25 trunking) and made the above changes. After switching to the P25 Trunked channel, it scans until time out and I receive an "Out Of Range" notification and cannot receive any traffic. Without having changed the protocol or any previous P25 settings, why is this happening?

I am scratching my head over this. Thanks!

What system and site are you trying to add to the radio?