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In the near future didn't we hear that like almost 2 years ago? Does the pager have to go back to the dealer or even unication or is it a download option?


Just so everyone knows we have a version of Phase II in Closed Beta with a few select system admins now and everything is looking good we just have to add in a few of the features that we support on Phase 1 and we should be good to release at some point in the near future.
 

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Just so everyone knows we have a version of Phase II in Closed Beta with a few select system admins now and everything is looking good we just have to add in a few of the features that we support on Phase 1 and we should be good to release at some point in the near future.

This is Great news!

Please bring back the "monitor" mode with it....


....Please.....
 

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And also, if a radio will do Phase 2, it has the hardware to do DMR. When is this release planned? (It was actually listed as an option in earlier firmware)
 

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He said “Phase II FDMA...” in the video and said it would support Phase II next year as David has already said. So I’m calling BS on that video of it on Phase II.


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The one I saw was an MSP barrack on FiRST (and the barrack talk groups are phase 2 only)

When you say phase 2 ONLY, your the system admin or have access to the system to verify these are locked onto phase 2.
I ask because most if not all phase 2 systems are backwards compatible with phase 1 just in case a radio affiliates and its not phase 2 capable. XTS2500 / XTS5000 come to mind portable wise. XTL2500 mobile.
Case in point new system just went online near me 3 weeks ago and for a few hours their main fire dispatch channel was phase 1.
Unless the talk group is locked down for phase 2 only by the system admin its entirely possible it could have been phase 1 while in use for a short period of time.
 

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I’m not a system admin for FiRST. But When running programming our Harris radios for FiRST we had neglected to click Phase 2 capable for FiRST. It would affiliate with the Statewide Interoperability talkgroups (and I can confirm we were bringing the groups down to phase 1) but it would not affiliate with the State Police talkgroups. Clicked phase 2 capable (only change that was made) and it affiliated just fine... so like I said the MSP talkgroups on FiRST are phase 2 only. I DO know what I am talking about and I don’t have to be the system admin.
 

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Well boys and girls, there it is straight from the Unication guru ! Sounds good David. Looks like the talkgroup is holding a big longer too so as not to scan on to another talkgroup. Hopefully a delay was built in or programmable. I’m getting beaten up on some of the busier systems.


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Hooray.
Nice example, im listening to the phase 1 stuff on the same system while my APX listens to garland and my HP2 listens to Phase 2 on PAWM
 

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Please tell me the G4 or G5 will do Phase 1 AND phase 2 together, like every other Phase 2 radio/monitor/scanner there is, and not just either phase 1 -OR- Phase 2 seperately?
 

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Please tell me the G4 or G5 will do Phase 1 AND phase 2 together, like every other Phase 2 radio/monitor/scanner there is, and not just either phase 1 -OR- Phase 2 seperately?

The G4 and G5 are NOT scanners. They are PAGERS. Please understand that. You can listen to only ONE system at a time.
 

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Please tell me the G4 or G5 will do Phase 1 AND phase 2 together, like every other Phase 2 radio/monitor/scanner there is, and not just either phase 1 -OR- Phase 2 seperately?

I'm quite confident that the radio will handle both Phase 1 and Phase 2 together. However, David can confirm for us.

The G4 and G5 are NOT scanners. They are PAGERS. Please understand that. You can listen to only ONE system at a time.

It is not uncommon (at all) for a single system/site/control channel to serve up both Phase 1 and Phase 2 talkgroups. In some cases, a talkgroup could easily switch from Phase 2 to Phase 1 and back to Phase 2 within minutes. There are also many systems that contain a mix of Phase 1 and Phase 2 talkgroups.
 
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