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In the meantime, I'm still getting 10135 PSP Coudrsprt constantly on BRAD31 and BRAD41.
FWIW, when sites first started coming online down my way, there was a lof of traffic on the PSP Mansfield talkgroup. That has gone away now. Although it cannot be confirmed, the speculation by some other folks is that it was SRND folks doing testing. Since they were using radios programmed for PSP in the field, they would have had to choose a talkgroup that wouldn't be live anywhere, yet. In your case, their options are dwindling now and Coudersport would be one of the last stations to come online. So, they may be using that talkgroup now for chatter related to rollout work or testing. They can't do that on the suspected tech talkgroups if they are using radios being deployed for Troop use.
 

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If someone could check out MCKE90 at some point, I am curious if that was ever brought online earlier in the process and maybe missed. It would provide coverage into Warren County and so I would think it would be online for that more than for the PSP migration (since PSP Kane is Troop C which is last to migrate, officially).

MCKE90 - Kane
WQUL240
151.3475
159.12
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MCKE90 - Kane does not seem to be active yet
 

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I wasn't saying that system folks are only using PSP patrol talkgroups. What I meant was, if they are field testing equipment being installed, that equipment is going to be programmed a particular way and not necessarily with the tech talkgroups. So, there could be folks working on the Coudersport talkgroup while there are also system folks talking about things on the tech talkgroups...different groups are handling tower work vs radio deployments vs coverage testing, etc.

But, all we can really do is speculate since it is all encrypted.
 

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FWIW, when sites first started coming online down my way, there was a lof of traffic on the PSP Mansfield talkgroup. That has gone away now. Although it cannot be confirmed, the speculation by some other folks is that it was SRND folks doing testing. Since they were using radios programmed for PSP in the field, they would have had to choose a talkgroup that wouldn't be live anywhere, yet. In your case, their options are dwindling now and Coudersport would be one of the last stations to come online. So, they may be using that talkgroup now for chatter related to rollout work or testing. They can't do that on the suspected tech talkgroups if they are using radios being deployed for Troop use.
That was one of my thoughts was that they were testing. They were at it again this morning but since this afternoon its been relatively quiet. And using Pro96com BRAD31 and BRAD41 seemed to be interacting with each other. Another indicator was that there were only three RID's. And I initially got Mansfield at first. So that is probably what was going on.
 

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So, I've kept a lot of old STARNET documents over the years. In an old contract appendix for the OpenSky system, I came across this list:

1 NW-1 ERIE, WARREN, CRAWFORD, MERCER, VENANGO, FOREST, CLARION, JEFFERSON, LAWRENCE, BUTLER, ARMSTRONG
2 SW -2 BEAVER, ALLEGHENY, WESTMORELAND, INDIANA, CAMBRIA, SOMERSET, FAYETTE, GREEN, WASHINGTON
3 NC-3 MCKEAN, POTTER, TIOGA, ELK, CAMERON, CLINTON, LYCOMING
4 SC-4 CLEARFIELD, CENTER, MIFFLIN, UNION, SNYDER, JUNIATA, HUNTINGTON, BLAIR, BEDFORD, FULTON
5 NE-5 BRADFORD, SUSQUEHANNA, WAYNE, SULLIVAN, WYOMING, LACKAWANNA, PIKE, MONROE, CARBON, LUZERNE, COLUMBIA, MONTOUR, NORTHUMBERLAND
6 SE-6 SCHUYLKILL, BERKS, LEHIGH, NORTHAMPTON, BUCKS, MONTGOMERY, CHESTER, DELAWARE, PHILADELPHIA
7 C-7 PERRY, DAUPHIN, LEBANON, LANCASTER, YORK, ADAMS, CUMBERLAND, FRANKLIN

It would appear that this meshes with the first two clusters of county interop talkgroups. This table is from a microwave system maintenance contract I saved somewhere along the way...probably off the e-marketplace where things are put out for bid. At any rate, it was really bugging me that the clustering of talkgroup ID's didn't match the PEMA regions, or PSP regions, or any other agency regions. I was puzzled when the NW counties were ID'd, so I went digging when the SW counties started to be noted. Seems like this makes sense, so far. Time will tell.
 

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So, I've kept a lot of old STARNET documents over the years. In an old contract appendix for the OpenSky system, I came across this list:

1NW-1ERIE, WARREN, CRAWFORD, MERCER, VENANGO, FOREST, CLARION, JEFFERSON, LAWRENCE, BUTLER, ARMSTRONG
2SW -2BEAVER, ALLEGHENY, WESTMORELAND, INDIANA, CAMBRIA, SOMERSET, FAYETTE, GREEN, WASHINGTON
3NC-3MCKEAN, POTTER, TIOGA, ELK, CAMERON, CLINTON, LYCOMING
4SC-4CLEARFIELD, CENTER, MIFFLIN, UNION, SNYDER, JUNIATA, HUNTINGTON, BLAIR, BEDFORD, FULTON
5NE-5BRADFORD, SUSQUEHANNA, WAYNE, SULLIVAN, WYOMING, LACKAWANNA, PIKE, MONROE, CARBON, LUZERNE, COLUMBIA, MONTOUR, NORTHUMBERLAND
6SE-6SCHUYLKILL, BERKS, LEHIGH, NORTHAMPTON, BUCKS, MONTGOMERY, CHESTER, DELAWARE, PHILADELPHIA
7C-7PERRY, DAUPHIN, LEBANON, LANCASTER, YORK, ADAMS, CUMBERLAND, FRANKLIN

It would appear that this meshes with the first two clusters of county interop talkgroups. This table is from a microwave system maintenance contract I saved somewhere along the way...probably off the e-marketplace where things are put out for bid. At any rate, it was really bugging me that the clustering of talkgroup ID's didn't match the PEMA regions, or PSP regions, or any other agency regions. I was puzzled when the NW counties were ID'd, so I went digging when the SW counties started to be noted. Seems like this makes sense, so far. Time will tell.
That chart translates to this TG layout.. ;)
PENNSYLVANIA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY COUNTY HAILING 12385-12459
  • PEMA Armstrong Co - 12385
  • PEMA Butler Co - 12386
  • PEMA Clarion Co - 12387 FAYE60 (04/03/2020)
  • PEMA Crawford Co - 12388
  • PEMA Erie Co - 12389 FAYE60 (04/03/2020)
  • PEMA Forest Co - 12390
  • PEMA Jefferson Co - 12391
  • PEMA Lawrence Co - 12392 WEST30 (04/20/2020) [RID 1314045]
  • PEMA Mercer Co - 12393
  • PEMA Venango Co - 12394
  • PEMA Warren Co - 12395
  • - 12396
  • PEMA Allegheny Co - 12397 FAYE60 (02/20/2020) [RID 1254081]
  • PEMA Beaver Co - 12398
  • PEMA Cambria Co - 12399 FAYE60 (04/03/2020)
  • PEMA Fayette Co - 12400 FAYE60 (02/22/2020) [RID 1250093]
  • PEMA Greene Co - 12401 WEST30 (04/20/2020) [RID 1314045]
  • PEMA Indiana Co - 12402
  • PEMA Somerset Co - 12403
  • PEMA Washington Co - 12404 FAYE60 (04/23/2020) [RID 1250093]
  • PEMA Westmoreland Co - 12405 WEST30 (04/06/2020) [RID 1250093]
  • - 12406
  • PEMA Elk Co - 12407
  • PEMA Cameron Co - 12408
  • PEMA Clinton Co - 12409
  • PEMA Lycoming Co - 12410
  • PEMA McKean Co - 12411
  • PEMA Potter Co - 12412
  • PEMA Tioga Co - 12413
  • - 12414
  • PEMA Bedford Co - 12415
  • PEMA Blair Co - 12416
  • PEMA Centre Co - 12417
  • PEMA Clearfield Co - 12418
  • PEMA Fulton Co - 12419
  • PEMA Huntingdon Co - 12420
  • PEMA Juniata Co - 12421
  • PEMA Mifflin Co - 12422
  • PEMA Snyder Co - 12423
  • PEMA Union Co - 12424
  • - 12425
  • PEMA Bradford Co - 12426
  • PEMA Carbon Co - 12427
  • PEMA Columbia Co - 12428 FAYE60 (04/23/2020) [RID 1250093]
  • PEMA Lackawanna Co - 12429
  • PEMA Luzerne Co - 12430
  • PEMA Monroe Co - 12431
  • PEMA Montour Co - 12432
  • PEMA Northumberland Co - 12433
  • PEMA Pike Co - 12434
  • PEMA Sullivan Co - 12435
  • PEMA Susquehanna Co - 12436
  • PEMA Wayne Co - 12437
  • PEMA Wyoming Co - 12438
  • - 12439
  • PEMA Berks Co - 12440
  • PEMA Bucks Co - 12441
  • PEMA Chester Co - 12442 (Added 03/07/2020)
  • PEMA Delaware Co - 12443
  • PEMA Lehigh Co - 12444
  • PEMA Montgomery Co - 12445
  • PEMA Northampton Co - 12446
  • PEMA Philadelphia Co - 12447
  • PEMA Schuylkill Co - 12448
  • - 12449
  • PEMA Adams Co - 12450
  • PEMA Cumberland Co - 12451
  • PEMA Dauphin Co - 12452
  • PEMA Franklin Co - 12453
  • PEMA Lancaster Co - 12454
  • PEMA Lebanon Co - 12455
  • PEMA Perry Co - 12456
  • PEMA York Co - 12457
  • - 12458
  • - 12459
 

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I know I posted something about this before. But I checked this page Pennsylvania Statewide Radio Network (PA-STARNet) PA Dept of Transportation Talkgroup Research - The RadioReference Wiki and I see they posted talk group’s for a few counties I can hear. So can I add to make separate banks of this for..

Lehigh County
Maintenance District 5-3 Lehigh Main Office Allentown/Garage - 11520 LANC33 (02/11/2020)
Maintenance District 5-3 Lehigh 20 - 11521
Maintenance District 5-3 Lehigh 30 - 11522
Maintenance District 5-3 Lehigh 40 - 11523
Maintenance District 5-3 Lehigh 99 - 11524
- 11525
- 11526

Monroe County
Maintenance District 5-4 Monroe Main Office Stroudsburg/Garage - 11564
Maintenance District 5-4 Monroe 10 - 11565
Maintenance District 5-4 Monroe 20 - 11566
Maintenance District 5-4 Monroe 30 - 11567
- 11568
- 11569

Northampton County
Maintenance District 5-5 Northampton Main Office Easton/Garage - 11580
Maintenance District 5-5 Northampton 20 - 11581
Maintenance District 5-5 Northampton 30 - 11582
Maintenance District 5-5 Northampton 40 - 11583
Maintenance District 5-5 Northampton 99 - 11584
- 11585
- 11586

Or should I wait a bit longer to do separate banks?? Thanks
 

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You can add them by hand now to your programming in any way you'd like, But they have not been reported active as of yet.. So are not really confirmed.. But you'd be ready if/when they do start..

Otherwise you'll have to wait for them to be added officially to the RR DB. It's your choice of course..
 

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FYI,
Found an oops in the above list.. This portion should be.. ;)

PEMA Cameron Co - 12407
PEMA Clinton Co - 12408
PEMA Elk Co - 12409
PEMA Lycoming Co - 12410
PEMA McKean Co - 12411
PEMA Potter Co - 12412
PEMA Tioga Co - 12413
 

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The list I've been keeping shows the following sites as still pending, not yet built out or on the air. Anyone show anything different or know if any of these have come online recently? :unsure:

VHF
SiteLocationCountyFCC
CAME33DriftwoodCameronWQUZ230
CLEA03PenfieldClearfieldWQUE286
CLEA15PenfieldClearfieldWQUG547
CLIN02RenovaClintonWQVB974
DELA64Newtown SquareDelawareWRBP862
LYCO02WatervilleLycomingWRFS486, WRCB536
MCKE11RewMcKeanWQUG532
MCKE90KaneMcKeanWQUL240
MIFF40BellevilleMifflinWQWD726
POTT10HebronPotterWQVG946
POTT12Denton HillPotterWQUX218, WRBY876
POTT41AustinPotterWQUI446
SCHU36Mahanoy CitySchuylkillWQLP935
TIOG03WestfieldTiogaWRBY876
TIOG06MansfieldTiogaWQVF377, WRBY876
TIOG42WellsboroTiogaWQUW992, WRBY876

800
SiteLocationCountyFCC
BUCK40NockamixonBucksWREW649
CHES96OxfordChesterWRAL397
DELA64Newtown SquareDelawareWRAL448
FAYE62Georges TownshipFayetteWPEF490
LEBA71JonestownLebanonWQUS875
 

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Just looking at the wiki, these are two I am curious about:
18/19 - KLMBerksPort ClintonWQOE3331.087BERK04 800853.1750???OFFLINE
If somebody is near northern Berks County/southern Schuylkill County, This one could be online.. :unsure:
 
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