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If the TG patterns are correct then I would say Troops AB are correct or very close to it. The three consoles, I would say they are a headquarters . So A1,B1 would be a headquarters. B3 I would say is Pittsburgh based on times of recent accident and logged radio traffic. Need to do research.
 

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I know a few are on the fence :unsure: as to the accuracy of the template. Nontheless this member is convinced of the following, And is going to submit these. I have little doubt that they are incorrect or will be changing anytime soon.

H1 Harrisburg (Dauphin)-10151
H2 Carlisle (Cumberland)-10152
H3 Chambersburg (Franklin)-10153
H4 Lykens (Dauphin)-10154
H5 Newport (Perry)-10155
H6 Gettysburg (Adams)-10156

J1 Lancaster (Lancaster)-10159
J2 Avondale (Chester)-10160
J3 Embreeville (Chester)-10161
J4 York (York) -10157

It is this members belief that there are many more that are correct, but I will leave the members from those locations to think about what they're seeing and determine whether to submit their findings. (If what your observing agrees with the template then I see NO reason not to update the DB accordingly.)
 

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These are presumed correct as well. I'll leave it at that. (y)

A1 Greensburg (Westmoreland)-10101
A2 Ebensburg (Cambria)-10102
A3 Indiana (Indiana)-10103
A4 Kiski Valley (Westmoreland)-10104
A6 Somerset (Somerset)-10105

B1 Washington (Washington)-10107
B2 Belle Vernon (Westmoreland)-10108
B3 Pittsburgh (Allegheny)-10109
B4 Uniontown (Fayette)-10110
B5 Waynesburg (Greene)-10111

D1 Butler (Butler)-10121
D2 Kittanning (Armstrong)-10122
D3 Mercer (Mercer)-10123
D4 Beaver (Beaver)-10124
D6 New Castle (Lawrence)-10125
D Tac-10126

E1 Erie (Erie)-10127
E2 Corry (Erie)-10128
E3 Franklin (Venango)-10129
E4 Girard (Erie)-10130
E5 Meadville (Crawford)-10131
E6 Warren (Warren)-10132 (Already In DB)

G1 Hollidaysburg (Blair)-10143
G2 Bedford (Bedford)-10144
G3 Huntingdon (Huntingdon)-10145
G4 Lewistown (Mifflin/Juniata)-10146
G5 McConnellsburg (Fulton)-10147
G7 Rockview (Centre)-10148

T1 Highspire (Dauphin)-10196
T2 Gibsonia (Allegheny)-10197
T3 Somerset (Somerset)-10198
T4 Everett (Bedford)-10199
T5 Newville (Cumberland)-10200
T6 Bowmansville (Lancaster)-10201
T7 King of Prussia (Montgomery)-10202
T8 Pocono (Carbon)-10203
T9 New Stanton (Westmoreland)-10204
 

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All,

How much of I-70 and the Turnpike between the Ohio line and the Northeast Extension interchange at Plymouth Meeting is now covered by this system?

Tom
 

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All,

How much of I-70 and the Turnpike between the Ohio line and the Northeast Extension interchange at Plymouth Meeting is now covered by this system?

Tom
From Ohio Line To Chester County, Soon Montgomery.. So YES All the way to Plymouth Mtg (Site 70's well within range) The NE Ext is covered up to Site 71 nothing beyond that (At least on the P25) to specifically answer your question. :)
Expecting 1.82 MONY02 and 1.83 PHIL02 to be online real soon.
 
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The Penna State Police on I-70 from the WV line to the entrance of the Turnpike at New Stanton most likely uses the new VHF P25 encrypted system.
If you are planning on travelling our wonderful turnpike:
Gas up in Ohio due to our fuel tax.
Bring your wallet because the turnpike will be expensive.
Check this page for the turnpike: https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=1260
The PSP operates via a patch un-encrypted, along with everyone else.
The turnpike is divided into districts, for that trip enter them all.

Be safe.....
 

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These are presumed correct as well. I'll leave it at that. (y)

A1 Greensburg (Westmoreland)-10101
A2 Ebensburg (Cambria)-10102
A3 Indiana (Indiana)-10103
A4 Kiski Valley (Westmoreland)-10104
A6 Somerset (Somerset)-10105

B1 Washington (Washington)-10107
B2 Belle Vernon (Westmoreland)-10108
B3 Pittsburgh (Allegheny)-10109
B4 Uniontown (Fayette)-10110
B5 Waynesburg (Greene)-10111

D1 Butler (Butler)-10121
D2 Kittanning (Armstrong)-10122
D3 Mercer (Mercer)-10123
D4 Beaver (Beaver)-10124
D6 New Castle (Lawrence)-10125
D Tac-10126

E1 Erie (Erie)-10127
E2 Corry (Erie)-10128
E3 Franklin (Venango)-10129
E4 Girard (Erie)-10130
E5 Meadville (Crawford)-10131
E6 Warren (Warren)-10132 (Already In DB)

G1 Hollidaysburg (Blair)-10143
G2 Bedford (Bedford)-10144
G3 Huntingdon (Huntingdon)-10145
G4 Lewistown (Mifflin/Juniata)-10146
G5 McConnellsburg (Fulton)-10147
G7 Rockview (Centre)-10148

T1 Highspire (Dauphin)-10196
T2 Gibsonia (Allegheny)-10197
T3 Somerset (Somerset)-10198
T4 Everett (Bedford)-10199
T5 Newville (Cumberland)-10200
T6 Bowmansville (Lancaster)-10201
T7 King of Prussia (Montgomery)-10202
T8 Pocono (Carbon)-10203
T9 New Stanton (Westmoreland)-10204
I know you're convinced that you are right with all this. However, this is wiki material...not database material. With the encryption, it is very difficult to confirm your conjecture without a lot more data compiling and analysis. I know that's not what you want to hear, but I don't see how any of this should be in the database right now.
 

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Understood,
doesn't matter to me personally, I know how to label my TG tags as I see fit and always have.
It only affects the few who do the fulldb scanning and even at that it'll only be a passing meaningless flash on a uniden :poop:
and It wouldn't change what I'm seeing. It'll work itself out.
The wiki is where they are now, and whither they stay there will or won't remains to be seen. Big Picture, Long Game. ;) at least it's out there and everyone can benefit. (I Hope) (y)
 

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If certain individuals are concerned with reputations to keep and all that's understood too.
Just wanna say the template was my creation and the development of it's creation can be tracked by digging back in the posts in this thread. Nobody snuck me any data that was beneficial in it's development, it was pure natural evolution. and it remains that for now :geek:

Thanks everyone! :giggle:
 
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Dagnabbit,
I hope that after this unseemly incident, that I will be able to get acceptable submissions approved.. ;)

One question remains for me, even after all the traversing of the internet I couldn't find a definite answer..
What is York PSP's proper designation?
I know they were H7, But they are definitely part of J now. But J4? J7? Still H7? IDK.
Hopefully I'll find out without having another runin' :unsure:
 

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Pretty sure one of Allegheny VHF simulcast sites is at the KXH383 site, on the east side of Pittsburgh, above the Waterworks Mall.
ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - KXH383 - Pennsylvania State Police
Went to the site, removed antenna from 536, full scale, good Route 28 coverage for PSP Kittanning into the city.
If, and I mean _if_ there is another undocumented site (and there very probably isn't) it would likely be at ALLE21 co-located with the Penn Hills 800 site. ALLE21 is midway between ALLE59 and ALLE41 and there is a microwave link between all 3. Confidence is not high that there are any more unknown locations for site 61. The spacing is too close between ALLE59 and ALLE41 and the location has good line of sight to either of those two making it redundant. Any coverage required in between is filled in by site 31 on 800. The simulcast VHF site in Tarentum fills the gap up to site 22 near Kittanning.
 

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Like HM1529 said, this does have to live in the Wiki until it is confirmed. But it does look good and is likely mostly correct.
The actual submission I filed was as confirmed a submission as is ever likely to occur concerning the specs..
I did not submit the whole template! :LOL:
actual text from submission..

Hello Admin,

I have been monitoring these TG's and am convinced of the accuracy of the info.
It's ready for primetime!

All are LAW DISPATCH / All are FULL TIME ENC

TG 10151 PSP Troop H1 Harrisburg (Dauphin County)
TG 10152 PSP Troop H2 Carlisle (Cumberland County)
TG 10153 PSP Troop H3 Chambersburg (Franklin County)
TG 10154 PSP Troop H4 Lykens (Dauphin County)
TG 10155 PSP Troop H5 Newport (Perry County)
TG 10156 PSP Troop H6 Gettysburg (Adams County)

TG 10159 PSP Troop J1 Lancaster (Lancaster County)
TG 10160 PSP Troop J2 Avondale (Chester)
TG 10161 PSP Troop J3 Embreeville (Chester County)
TG 10157 PSP Troop J4 York (York County)

additional info can be found on the following wiki page.
https://wiki.radioreference.com/ind...o_Network_(PA-STARNet)_PSP_Talkgroup_Template

Thank You,
Brent
PaStarNet Site 65 capture 1 2018-02-01-12AM-6AM.jpg
This certainly can't be right. :mad:
A site covering Chester, Lancaster, and York Counties wouldn't ever see activity such as this, Besides 10160 was reported in use in the Erie area when the system was just starting up, There is simply No way a talkgroup assigned to Avondale would have been used up there, Heck there was 0 chance of someone replying from there.. Thus it couldn't be that now? Right? gotta be something else. JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
Same probably goes for the quandary with TG 10138 the template would indicate that it's F5 Mansfield, but there isn't anybody up there now. Just like back at the start with 10160 if you follow the analogy, Another member is certain it's some other type of TAC CH.
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 302, 50, Normal, 1712, 2019/01/10 13:25, "PSP PW/E5/F5/J2 Disp 10012/10131/10138/10160"
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 1200008, 60, Normal, 1626, 2019/01/10 13:25, "PSP E1/F5/H1/J2 Unit 10127/10138/10151/10160"
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 1200015, 60, Normal, 977, 2019/01/10 13:25, "PSP E5/F5/J2 Unit 10131/10138/10160"
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 1200016, 60, Normal, 59, 2019/01/09 13:22, "PSP E5/F5 Unit 10131/10138"
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 1200094, 60, Normal, 1492, 2019/01/10 13:25, "PSP F5/H1/J2 Unit 10138/10151/10160"


I'm sure if I'd had the luxury of monitoring up there as I have down here I'd have seen similar strange and unexplained TG appearances.
Also the TAC's in the template could be terribly wrong.
Th
e sequence may have potentially started with a TAC first, Meaning the A TAC could have been 10100 instead of 10106 which would be B TAC and so on down the list. Then the issue with what to do with 10149 and 10150.. OH it's hopeless, useless, epic fail here. The resistance is strong and may have more to do with exterior images and motivations beyond the fear of tainting something in the DB or being the first to break the ice. The thought crossed my mind to delete the whole TG Template as garbage through and through, But then I couldn't entertain the thought of some Hburg bigwig getting a sniff of the TG info posted here, Then presenting it to a radio head with the info displayed on some tablet. And thus the radio tech takes a gander and says "Yeah that looks right" and hands back the tablet. Then the Bigwig spins around in a huff and says "change the whole thing around, Some barefoot hillbilly figured this out on his own and we need to revamp the whole line from scratch"... BWAA HAA HAA HAA! :ROFLMAO:
Never gonna happen..:D:eek: WHAT ever.

I'm going to bed Ben. :sleep:
 
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Even after many hours of numbing silence, the picture is not jiving up.
PaStarNet Site 65 capture 2 2018-02-01-10AM-12PM.jpg
Accidents in Lancaster, wouldn't know it, no evidence here..
PaStarNet Site 65 capture 3 2018-02-01-10AM-12PM.jpg
283 shut down, various spots between Dauphin & Lancaster Counties.
 
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Took a ride today...

Nothing active around the Buckingham site in Bucks Co. So, it appears that site may not actually be online. No close call hit on anything, either.

I did get a signal from the Willow Grove 800 site on my trip. However, Pro96Com did not decode anything.

Unitrunker is showing:

Site 1.81
859.5375 cc
857.6375 alt
856.7875 alt

Neighbors 1.82 and 1.89
BCD436 is showing NAC 949

Not sure why Pro96Com would get nothing and Unitrunker would get something. The Unication G5 also did not recognize the site using a scan across 800MHz for a CC.
 

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Took a ride today...

Nothing active around the Buckingham site in Bucks Co. So, it appears that site may not actually be online. No close call hit on anything, either.

I did get a signal from the Willow Grove 800 site on my trip. However, Pro96Com did not decode anything.

Unitrunker is showing:

Site 1.81
859.5375 cc
857.6375 alt
856.7875 alt

Neighbors 1.82 and 1.89
BCD436 is showing NAC 949

Not sure why Pro96Com would get nothing and Unitrunker would get something. The Unication G5 also did not recognize the site using a scan across 800MHz for a CC.

Turns out I had my upper ranges set too low on the G5 800MHz band scan and it was just missing this CC. Whoops.
 

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I think there is a CC active on the Willow Grove VHF site. I am getting a weak data stream on my Kenwood TK7180, but I am too far away to decode anything on the scanners. Anybody able to receive?

151.0625 cc
154.9425
155.0775
 

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I think there is a CC active on the Willow Grove VHF site. I am getting a weak data stream on my Kenwood TK7180, but I am too far away to decode anything on the scanners. Anybody able to receive?

151.0625 cc
154.9425
155.0775
1.82 is in the database. Confirmed the CC and site NAC...just need confirmation on alt CC and voice channel(s).
 
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