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FYI,
1.76 is appearing to be online according to 1.65, the status changed today.

2019/02/05 23:04:11 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 Current site: BEE00.942-1.65 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/05 23:04:27 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.64; CC=4-1409 153.5225 LANC01 Cornwall/Lancaster
2019/02/05 23:04:28 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-
1.76; CC=0-1381 859.6375 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:29 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.70; CC=5-2870 168.8750 CHES02 Devault/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:31 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/05 23:04:33 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.79; CC=5-2915 168.9875 CHES33 Hibernia/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:39 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.58; CC=4-2178 155.4450 YORK16 Andersontown/York
 

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FYI,
1.76 is appearing to be online according to 1.65, the status changed today.

2019/02/05 23:04:11 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 Current site: BEE00.942-1.65 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/05 23:04:27 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.64; CC=4-1409 153.5225 LANC01 Cornwall/Lancaster
2019/02/05 23:04:28 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-
1.76; CC=0-1381 859.6375 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:29 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.70; CC=5-2870 168.8750 CHES02 Devault/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:31 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/05 23:04:33 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.79; CC=5-2915 168.9875 CHES33 Hibernia/Chester
2019/02/05 23:04:39 Freq=153.447500 NAC=943 BEE00.942-1.65 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.58; CC=4-2178 155.4450 YORK16 Andersontown/York
When I found the Pocopson site tonight, I was actually looking for Morgantown. I did not get any signal on the Morgantown freqs. I was about 26 miles from Morgantown, but I had a totally unobstructed path to that site. Considering I could hear Pocopson at 23 miles with a bit of topography in the way, I have to figure Morgantown, like Buckingham, is not actually on the air even though it is showing up that way.
 

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They're really moving full steam ahead with the buildout of this system. It seems that this system is actually shaping up to be a success, unlike the OpenSky albatross. Good for them, they certainly needed a victory with this one, no way could they afford another two decades long debacle.
 

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I found both today.. :)

Site: 1.68 NAC=941 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.76 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Channel 0-641: 855.0125 SCC
Channel 0-901: 856.6375 SCC
Channel 0-1221: 858.6375 CC

Site: 1.76 NAC=94C BSI=WRAL397 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.65 ; LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.68 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks

Channel 0-893: 856.5875 BSI
Channel 0-1053: 857.5875 CC SCC
Channel 0-1129: 858.0625 SCC
Channel 0-1381: 859.6375 CC


1.75 BUCK33 800 858.0375 CC
 
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Oops hadn't updated Sites list. This is correct


Site: 1.68 NAC=941 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; CHES02 800 Devault/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.76 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Channel 0-641: 855.0125 SCC
Channel 0-901: 856.6375 SCC
Channel 0-1221: 858.6375 CC

Site: 1.76 NAC=94C BSI=WRAL397 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.65 ; LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.68 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; CHES02 800 Devault/Chester

Channel 0-893: 856.5875 BSI
Channel 0-1053: 857.5875 CC SCC
Channel 0-1129: 858.0625 SCC
Channel 0-1381: 859.6375 CC
 

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Oops hadn't updated Sites list. This is correct


Site: 1.68 NAC=941 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; CHES02 800 Devault/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.76 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Channel 0-641: 855.0125 SCC
Channel 0-901: 856.6375 SCC
Channel 0-1221: 858.6375 CC

Site: 1.76 NAC=94C BSI=WRAL397 ; CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester

Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.65 ; LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.68 ; CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.69 ; CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester
Neighbor: BEE00.942-1.75 ; CHES02 800 Devault/Chester

Channel 0-893: 856.5875 BSI
Channel 0-1053: 857.5875 CC SCC
Channel 0-1129: 858.0625 SCC
Channel 0-1381: 859.6375 CC
So, you are actually copying Morgantown then? I'll add it to the database.
 

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So, you are actually copying Morgantown then? I'll add it to the database.
Yeah, I'm posting false data again!.. :sick: It was added as a note to an existing submission that has been waiting for validation, since I have a reputation for submitting false data.?

I've never BS'd this stuff.. despite opinion to the contrary.. And have admitted when I know I'm wrong.. (No such admission is here, just a neighbor listed site had a wrong alpha tag.)

ACTUALLY DECODED (y)

2019/02/07 20:26:41 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: 1.76
2019/02/07 20:26:43 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current network: BEE00.942 PA-STARNet
2019/02/07 20:26:48 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: BEE00.942-1.76 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/07 20:26:51 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.68; CC=0-1221 858.6375 CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester?
2019/02/07 20:26:52 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/07 20:26:54 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.65; CC=4-1379 153.4475 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/07 20:26:55 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.75; CC=0-1125 858.0375 BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks?
2019/02/07 20:27:56 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Lost control channel; tuning to 857.587500
2019/02/07 20:31:11 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current network: BEE00.942 PA-STARNet
2019/02/07 20:31:11 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: BEE00.942-1.76 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/07 20:31:12 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C 859.6375 43.6 m NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS OF THE MI BURCHARD SAWMILL RD .6 MI/CHESTERTOWN/QUEEN ANN 20K0F1D
2019/02/07 20:31:12 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/07 20:31:13 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.68; CC=0-1221 858.6375 CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester?
2019/02/07 20:31:14 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.75; CC=0-1125 858.0375 BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks?
2019/02/07 20:31:15 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.65; CC=4-1379 153.4475 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/07 20:32:30 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BSI=WRAL397 Ch=856.5875
2019/02/07 20:35:51 Freq=153.522500 NAC=94C 153.5225 19.8 m AIR METHODS 5MO IG Mobile COATESVILLE, PA (CHESTER) WQUV971 FMN
 

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Yeah, I'm posting false data again!.. :sick: It was added as a note to an existing submission that has been waiting for validation, since I have a reputation for submitting false data.?

I've never BS'd this stuff.. despite opinion to the contrary.. And have admitted when I know I'm wrong.. (No such admission is here, just a neighbor listed site had a wrong alpha tag.)

ACTUALLY DECODED(y)

2019/02/07 20:26:41 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: 1.76
2019/02/07 20:26:43 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current network: BEE00.942 PA-STARNet
2019/02/07 20:26:48 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: BEE00.942-1.76 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/07 20:26:51 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.68; CC=0-1221 858.6375 CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester?
2019/02/07 20:26:52 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/07 20:26:54 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.65; CC=4-1379 153.4475 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/07 20:26:55 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.75; CC=0-1125 858.0375 BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks?
2019/02/07 20:27:56 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Lost control channel; tuning to 857.587500
2019/02/07 20:31:11 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current network: BEE00.942 PA-STARNet
2019/02/07 20:31:11 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C Current site: BEE00.942-1.76 CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester
2019/02/07 20:31:12 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C 859.6375 43.6 m NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS OF THE MI BURCHARD SAWMILL RD .6 MI/CHESTERTOWN/QUEEN ANN 20K0F1D
2019/02/07 20:31:12 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.69; CC=0-1217 858.6125 CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester FAILED, ISOLATED
2019/02/07 20:31:13 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.68; CC=0-1221 858.6375 CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester?
2019/02/07 20:31:14 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.75; CC=0-1125 858.0375 BUCK33 800 Buckingham/Bucks?
2019/02/07 20:31:15 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BEE00.942-1.76 neighbor: Site BEE00.942-1.65; CC=4-1379 153.4475 LANC33 Truce/Lancaster
2019/02/07 20:32:30 Freq=859.637500 NAC=94C BSI=WRAL397 Ch=856.5875
2019/02/07 20:35:51 Freq=153.522500 NAC=94C 153.5225 19.8 m AIR METHODS 5MO IG Mobile COATESVILLE, PA (CHESTER) WQUV971 FMN

You're developing a complex. Your note was attached last night to the submission that I held previously. That was the submission with all the PSP talkgroups labelled. I think we've explained already why we have no plans to put those talkgroups in the database for now. It is not that the material is patently false. The database admin handbook specifically states: " Frequencies and talkgroups must have a confirmed description (i.e., they must be identified) to be included in the database. Include unidentified or unconfirmed data in the relevant portion of the RR wiki instead. "
 

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You're developing a complex. Your note was attached last night to the submission that I held previously. That was the submission with all the PSP talkgroups labelled. I think we've explained already why we have no plans to put those talkgroups in the database for now. It is not that the material is patently false. The database admin handbook specifically states: " Frequencies and talkgroups must have a confirmed description (i.e., they must be identified) to be included in the database. Include unidentified or unconfirmed data in the relevant portion of the RR wiki instead. "

Not a complex on this end.

Hello Admin,

I have been monitoring these TG's and am convinced of the accuracy of the info.
It's ready for primetime!

All are LAW DISPATCH / All are FULL TIME ENC

TG 10151 PSP Troop H1 Harrisburg (Dauphin County)
TG 10152 PSP Troop H2 Carlisle (Cumberland County)
TG 10153 PSP Troop H3 Chambersburg (Franklin County)
TG 10154 PSP Troop H4 Lykens (Dauphin County)
TG 10155 PSP Troop H5 Newport (Perry County)
TG 10156 PSP Troop H6 Gettysburg (Adams County)

TG 10159 PSP Troop J1 Lancaster (Lancaster County)
TG 10160 PSP Troop J2 Avondale (Chester)
TG 10161 PSP Troop J3 Embreeville (Chester County)
TG 10157 PSP Troop J4 York (York County)

What MORE DO YOU NEED?
The PSP Barracks listed above have a TG that is dedicated to their dispatch.
get off your .... horse.

Maybe another admin can take over the submission you believe is erroneous?

Oh I'll submit it agaain... maybe get a different response?
 
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Thanks for the favor, the new definition of insane can be found two posts above. Maybe someone who's not getting influence from the commonwealth can take over the PA STARNet RR DB Admin job.. :ROFLMAO: DONE!
 

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Thanks for the favor, the new definition of insane can be found two posts above. Maybe someone who's not getting influence from the commonwealth can take over the PA STARNet RR DB Admin job.. :ROFLMAO:DONE!
I gotta tell ya, you're out of line here. Against my better judgment, I sent you a private message, hoping we can bring this down a few notches...but that was before this latest post you made.
 

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Ben,
The comments I posted to the forum were totally regrettable, and I wish I had maintained some self control. I have the highest regard for you and think of you like a RR family member. I would never create false data, or post it to the wiki; if I didn't believe it was correct. If it turns out that some/all of the "pecker tracks" I've left are disproved I'll certainly take the time to correct/remove them, It's why I took the time to post them in the first place..

Please Accept My Apology.

I'm sorry Ben.

Your RR friend,
Brent

Hopefully this will allow air to return to the room, everyone take a breath. I'm Sorry.
 

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T2 Gibsonia (Allegheny) TG 10197
I am not certain this is correct. I'm not getting any hits on this and I think I should be according to the template.
Thank You for the report!
It's been explained to me that the Turnpike Troops are using the Turnpike System primarily, So it might or might not mean much, as far as concerning the template.. They may just not use the P25, or do so via a patch.
I'm a kindergartner in this class room, perhaps someone else can chime in here concerning the subject? ;)

The only TG's in that range that have been reported are.
T5 Newville (Cumberland)? - 10200
T6 Bowmansville (Lancaster)? - 10201
T7 King of Prussia (Montgomery)? - 10202
T9 New Stanton (Westmoreland)? - 10204
T Tac? - 10205

Soo....? More time, and data need to accrue there. Hope that makes some sense.. (y)
 

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Here's something to help/hurt? the cause. :unsure:

The following are examples that would definitely be expected to be observed, depending on the site being monitored. (Based on the fact that these are known to be PSP Troops using the P25)

In other words, If on a site..

In the NW; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10127-10132 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

In the NW slightly southerly; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10121-10125 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

In the SW; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10107-10111 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

In the SW slightly easterly; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10101-10105 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

In the SC slightly westerly; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10143-10148 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

In the SC slightly easterly; you'd expect to see a ponderous amount of hits in the 10151-10157/10159-10161 TG range. And among that range dependent on location, one of those will be seen the most..

And So on.. As the system grows..

If any of the above examples don't pan out after a reasonable amount of time observing, then maybe the template is wrong, or needs a new lookin' into.. or trashed..

Attached is an hpe file in zip that is set up with all the TG's alpha tagged based on the template.
All known sites are included along with location control info. (BEWARE: Only the known active CC's are included)
All the RIDS from the wiki are included and tagged if known..
SO you can load it up without messing up your current setup, yet try this experiment. :geek:
TG's that are in the template, but have never been reported active, are followed by NC and have an alert tone set.
If the scanner starts beeping!! I'd definitely wanna know what was causing that!! :LOL:
If not using location settings, you'll need to avoid all sites except those you'd expect to actually receive. (y)
And each site has a quick key assigned that is equal to the site number!!
  • A1 Greensburg (Westmoreland) - 10101
  • A2 Ebensburg (Cambria) - 10102
  • A3 Indiana (Indiana) - 10103
  • A4 Kiski Valley (Westmoreland) - 10104
  • A6 Somerset (Somerset) - 10105

  • B1 Washington (Washington) - 10107
  • B2 Belle Vernon (Westmoreland) - 10108
  • B3 Pittsburgh (Allegheny) - 10109
  • B4 Uniontown (Fayette) - 10110
  • B5 Waynesburg (Greene) - 10111

  • D1 Butler (Butler) - 10121
  • D2 Kittanning (Armstrong) - 10122
  • D3 Mercer (Mercer) - 10123
  • D4 Beaver (Beaver) - 10124
  • D6 New Castle (Lawrence) - 10125

  • E1 Erie (Erie) - 10127
  • E2 Corry (Erie) - 10128
  • E3 Franklin (Venango) - 10129
  • E4 Girard (Erie) - 10130
  • E5 Meadville (Crawford) - 10131
  • E6 Warren (Warren) - 10132

  • G1 Hollidaysburg (Blair) - 10143
  • G2 Bedford (Bedford) - 10144
  • G3 Huntingdon (Huntingdon) - 10145
  • G4 Lewistown (Mifflin/Juniata) - 10146
  • G5 McConnellsburg (Fulton) - 10147
  • G7 Rockview (Centre) - 10148

  • H1 Harrisburg (Dauphin) - 10151
  • H2 Carlisle (Cumberland) - 10152
  • H3 Chambersburg (Franklin) - 10153
  • H4 Lykens (Dauphin) - 10154
  • H5 Newport (Perry) - 10155
  • H6 Gettysburg (Adams) - 10156

  • J1 Lancaster (Lancaster) - 10159
  • J2 Avondale (Chester) - 10160
  • J3 Embreeville (Chester) - 10161
  • J4? York (York) [Formerly H7] - 10157

Give it a try.. If we could get a report from each of those locations.. That would kinda set the tone for what comes next..
 

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