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Event 1 10090
Event 2 10091
Event 3 10092
Event 5 10094
Event 7 10096
Event 8 10097
Event 9 10098
Event 10 10099

Er, Something like dat...
going to bed...
 

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Just because you see 10133 in the list up there does not mean it was ever reported used.
Admin get ready.. :)

If the template is correct, These TG's have been reported active.

These are the ones that members Have reported..
They are in the wiki, and here with a tag..

https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Pennsylvania_Statewide_Radio_Network_(PA-STARNet)_Talkgroup_Research

A1 Greensburg (Westmoreland)-10101
A2 Ebensburg (Cambria)-10102
A3 Indiana (Indiana)-10103
A4 Kiski Valley (Westmoreland)-10104
A6 Somerset (Somerset)-10105
B1 Washington (Washington)-10107
B2 Belle Vernon (Westmoreland)-10108
B3 Pittsburgh (Allegheny)-10109
B4 Uniontown (Fayette)-10110
B5 Waynesburg (Greene)-10111
C1 Punxsutawney (Jefferson)-10113
C2 Clarion (Clarion)-10114
C3 Clearfield (Clearfield)-10115
D1 Butler (Butler)-10121
D2 Kittanning (Armstrong)-10122
D3 Mercer (Mercer)-10123
D4 Beaver (Beaver)-10124
D6 New Castle (Lawrence)-10125
D Tac-10126
E1 Erie (Erie)-10127
E2 Corry (Erie)-10128
E3 Franklin (Venango)-10129
E4 Girard (Erie)-10130
E5 Meadville (Crawford)-10131
E6 Warren (Warren)-10132
F3 Emporium (Cameron)-10136
F4 Lamar (Clinton)-10137
F5 Mansfield (Tioga)-10138
F7 Selinsgrove (Snyder)-10140
G1 Hollidaysburg (Blair)-10143
G2 Bedford (Bedford)-10144
G3 Huntingdon (Huntingdon)-10145
G4 Lewistown (Mifflin/Juniata)-10146
G5 McConnellsburg (Fulton)-10147
G7 Rockview (Centre)-10148
H1 Harrisburg (Dauphin)-10151
H2 Carlisle (Cumberland)-10152
H3 Chambersburg (Franklin)-10153
H4 Lykens (Dauphin)-10154
H5 Newport (Perry)-10155
H6 Gettysburg (Adams)-10156
J1 Lancaster (Lancaster)-10159
J2 Avondale (Chester)-10160
J3 Embreeville (Chester)-10161
J4? York (York) [Formerly H7]-10157
K1 Philadelphia (Philadelphia)-10163
K2 Media (Delaware)-10164
K3 Skippack (Montgomery)-10165
L1 Reading (Berks)-10167
L2 Jonestown (Lebanon)-10168
L3 Frackville (Schuylkill)-10169
L7 Schuylkill Haven (Schuylkill)-10171
M5 Fogelsville (Lehigh)-10176
M6 Belfast (Northampton)-10177
N1 Hazleton (Luzerne)-10179
N3 Fern Ridge (Monroe)-10181
N4 Lehighton (Carbon)-10182
P4 Shickshinny (Luzerne)-10187
R3 Honesdale (Wayne)-10192
R5 Gibson (Susquehanna)-10194
T5 Newville (Cumberland)-10200
T6 Bowmansville (Lancaster)-10201
T7 King of Prussia (Montgomery)-10202
T9 New Stanton (Westmoreland)-10204
T Tac-10205
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10160 and 10161 were patched to 10042 this morning.

This morning, 10160 and 10161 were both briefly patched to 10041, 10159, 10157, one after another, in that order.
Over the past two days, I have logged RIDS 15, 17, and 18 all on 10160 and 10161. RID 16 has only appeared on 10041 recently.
 

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I am remotely monitoring the local Delaware County and Philadelphia area systems for activity.

Are these talk groups actually specific to the stations ?

K1 Philadelphia (Philadelphia)-10163
K2 Media (Delaware)-10164

Terry
 

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I am remotely monitoring the local Delaware County and Philadelphia area systems for activity.

Are these talk groups actually specific to the stations ?

K1 Philadelphia (Philadelphia)-10163
K2 Media (Delaware)-10164

Terry

No. U2Brent is thinking out loud and posting his thoughts. It seems folks are getting confused by this. Nobody knows anything for sure about any of the PSP talkgroups. He is trying to figure out some logical pattern, despite the fact that logic probably won't apply as nicely as we want it to.

I doubt Media or Philly are even on the air yet since the towers in that area are not active. In fact, as I type, I am just now getting noise for the first time on the MONY02 frequencies (lucky I'm home today). So, it appears that site will go live soon. Philly VHF shows as an offline neighbor, still. None of the 800MHz sites are up or even showing as neighbors, and the Newtown Square VHF site is also still missing.
 

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nobody believed Tesla either.
the silence from the jokers speaks volumes.
I DID NOT MANUALLY ADD TG'S, DSD+ added them, I just named the tags.
The Towers down there may not be on yet.
Doesn't mean the radios that are out there now can't already have those TG's preprogrammed, like J to K ? Eh?
Guys playing with buttons & knobs.. Impossible'
 

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This morning, 10160 and 10161 were both briefly patched to 10041, 10159, 10157, one after another, in that order.
Over the past two days, I have logged RIDS 15, 17, and 18 all on 10160 and 10161. RID 16 has only appeared on 10041 recently.
I've been seeing the same activity from Truce. A Harrisburg led daily prayer service.. :giggle:
16 is the non-denomination chap.
 
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For the global tac channel (a few of which are in the wiki):

  • 10078 ALL Global CMD_1? ERIE80/LANC33
  • 10079 ALL Global Tac_1? ERIE80/LANC33 (State Parks clear radio testing 11/29/2018)
  • 10080 ALL Global Tac_2? ERIE80/LANC33
  • 10081 ALL Global Tac_3? ERIE80
  • 10082 ALL Global Tac_4? ERIE80

In the OpenSky radios, the two interop profiles go like this:

GLOBAL1
Ch 1 - CMD_1
Ch 2 - TAC_1
Ch 3 - TAC_2
Ch 4 - TAC_3
Ch 5 - TAC_4
Ch 6 - TAC_5
Ch 7 - TAC_6
Ch 8 - TAC_7
Ch 9 - TAC_8
CH 10 - TAC_9
CH 11 - TAC_10
CH 12 - TAC_11
CH 13 - PLAN_1
CH 14 - LOGSTC1
CH 15 - ADMN_1
CH 16 - COMMON

GLOBAL2
Ch 1 - CMD_2
Ch 2 - TAC_13
Ch 3 - TAC_14
Ch 4 - TAC_15
Ch 5 - TAC_16
Ch 6 - TAC_17
Ch 7 - TAC_18
Ch 8 - TAC_19
Ch 9 - TAC_20
CH 10 - TAC_21
CH 11 - TAC_22
CH 12 - TAC_23
CH 13 - PLAN_2
CH 14 - LOGSTC2
CH 15 - ADMN_2
CH 16 - COMMON

Sooooo, when you toss these into the mix, that complicates matters since it has already been determined that some of these are appearing in the 10xxx series with PSP talkgroups.
 
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Acutally, three interop profiles, but I have no idea if these channels below are ever used or are even being carried over to the new system:

INTEROP
Ch 1 - INTR_OP
Ch 2 - ICC_1
Ch 3 - ICC_2
Ch 4 - ICC_3
Ch 5 - ICC_4
Ch 6 - ICC_5
Ch 7 - ICC_6
Ch 8 - ICC_7
Ch 9 - ICC_8
CH 10 - ICC_9
CH 11 - ICC_10
CH 12 - ICC_11
CH 13 - ICC_12
CH 14 - ICC_13
CH 15 - ICC_14
CH 16 - ICC_15
 

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I am wondering if those RIDS 15, 16, 17, 18 belong to consoles at the PSP Watch Center or some other HQ area? They seem to have appeared on a bunch of talkgroups based on the wiki, whereas most of the other low numbered RIDS stay with just one or two talkgroups.
 

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No. U2Brent is thinking out loud and posting his thoughts. It seems folks are getting confused by this. Nobody knows anything for sure about any of the PSP talkgroups. He is trying to figure out some logical pattern, despite the fact that logic probably won't apply as nicely as we want it to.

I doubt Media or Philly are even on the air yet since the towers in that area are not active. In fact, as I type, I am just now getting noise for the first time on the MONY02 frequencies (lucky I'm home today). So, it appears that site will go live soon. Philly VHF shows as an offline neighbor, still. None of the 800MHz sites are up or even showing as neighbors, and the Newtown Square VHF site is also still missing.

Thank you both for your replies. Was just going to log the RIDs if they were linked to those talk groups as local K units.

No worries and experimenting is not a problem. After all this is a radio hobby and for some of us, experimenting with unknown frequencies or talk groups is just part of the fun. It is still fun after having done it for 51 years. Gotta go - just heard some activity on the Dixie cup and string frequency I monitor.

Terry
 

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For the global tac channel (a few of which are in the wiki):

Sooooo, when you toss these into the mix, that complicates matters since it has already been determined that some of these are appearing in the 10xxx series with PSP talkgroups.

I'm not aware of any of those TG's you mention, ever being pegged as 101xx/102xx series, 100xx yes I agree.
Where is that 101xx TG I tagged that is incorrect? If true I'm learning it for the first time..
Where? where? where? :rolleyes:
 

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CMD_1 thru TAC_4 are sequential in the talkgroup list. If you continue sequentially, you'll run in to conflict before you get through the global talkgroups.

You're very wound up today.:)

Devault 800 is on the air today. My PRO-106 must have a cracked antenna connection inside, because I cannot pick up Devault 800 at all on it to run it thru Unitrunker or Pro96Com. I can get it on the BCD436 and a Unication G5, though.
 

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And your sure they are all actually being transposed from OpenSky to the P25? just like the list.. Hah hah, yes wound up! :LOL: Whoo HOO 800's!! :geek:
 

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CMD_1 thru TAC_4 are sequential in the talkgroup list. If you continue sequentially, you'll run in to conflict before you get through the global talkgroups.

You're very wound up today.:)

Devault 800 is on the air today. My PRO-106 must have a cracked antenna connection inside, because I cannot pick up Devault 800 at all on it to run it thru Unitrunker or Pro96Com. I can get it on the BCD436 and a Unication G5, though.
What's the NAC on the scanner?, What's the NAC on the scanner? :unsure:Oh yeah hit the analyze..

Calming.. down:)

How do we know there isnt' some special relationship with Tioga? :love:
P25, BEE00.942, 10138, 60, Normal, 4090, 2019/01/10 13:25, "PSP Disp F5 Mansfield (Tioga) 10138"
 
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Site 1.75, Devault 800 neighbors for today:

1.68 858.6375 failed
1.76 859.6375 failed
1.83 857.6125 failed

Other info in the database.

I resurrected an old PRO-96 while I figure out why the 106 barely receives. If only the buttons worked well on the 96.
 
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In English for the layman. :)

Site 1.68-NAC ??? CHES31 800 Pocopson/Chester WRAL397 858.6375 failed

Site 1.69-NAC ??? CHES96 800 Oxford/Chester WRAL397 858.6125 failed

Site 1.75-NAC 94D CHES02 800 Devault/Chester WRAL397 858.0375 online
854.8125
856.1125
856.5125

858.0375

Site 1.76-NAC ??? CHES01 800 Morgantown/Chester WRAL397 859.6375 failed

Site 1.83-NAC ??? PHIL02 800 Belmont/Philadelphia WRAL448 857.6125 failed
 

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For the global tac channel (a few of which are in the wiki):

  • 10078 ALL Global CMD_1? ERIE80/LANC33
  • 10079 ALL Global Tac_1? ERIE80/LANC33 (State Parks clear radio testing 11/29/2018)
  • 10080 ALL Global Tac_2? ERIE80/LANC33
  • 10081 ALL Global Tac_3? ERIE80
  • 10082 ALL Global Tac_4? ERIE80

In the OpenSky radios, the two interop profiles go like this:

GLOBAL1
Ch 1 - CMD_1
Ch 2 - TAC_1
Ch 3 - TAC_2
Ch 4 - TAC_3
Ch 5 - TAC_4
Ch 6 - TAC_5
Ch 7 - TAC_6
Ch 8 - TAC_7
Ch 9 - TAC_8
CH 10 - TAC_9
CH 11 - TAC_10
CH 12 - TAC_11
CH 13 - PLAN_1
CH 14 - LOGSTC1
CH 15 - ADMN_1
CH 16 - COMMON

GLOBAL2
Ch 1 - CMD_2
Ch 2 - TAC_13
Ch 3 - TAC_14
Ch 4 - TAC_15
Ch 5 - TAC_16
Ch 6 - TAC_17
Ch 7 - TAC_18
Ch 8 - TAC_19
Ch 9 - TAC_20
CH 10 - TAC_21
CH 11 - TAC_22
CH 12 - TAC_23
CH 13 - PLAN_2
CH 14 - LOGSTC2
CH 15 - ADMN_2
CH 16 - COMMON

Sooooo, when you toss these into the mix, that complicates matters since it has already been determined that some of these are appearing in the 10xxx series with PSP talkgroups.

Acutally, three interop profiles, but I have no idea if these channels below are ever used or are even being carried over to the new system:

INTEROP
Ch 1 - INTR_OP
Ch 2 - ICC_1
Ch 3 - ICC_2
Ch 4 - ICC_3
Ch 5 - ICC_4
Ch 6 - ICC_5
Ch 7 - ICC_6
Ch 8 - ICC_7
Ch 9 - ICC_8
CH 10 - ICC_9
CH 11 - ICC_10
CH 12 - ICC_11
CH 13 - ICC_12
CH 14 - ICC_13
CH 15 - ICC_14
CH 16 - ICC_15

Maybe 10078 - 10082 listed above are actually Interops from your third list? IDK. I have not counted them out or even given those much thought. Thought getting the PSP Troop TG's figured was a good exercise, Will study/mull over the stuff and let it digest a bit.

I'm still waiting for someone to say "That can't be right! I'm seeing this or that.." et al :geek:

Here's what I know...The troops that have appeared & what TG. with a console (/Disp)

SW Tac1 TG 10001 (Many.Many)
SW Tac2 TG 10002 (Many.Many)
...
E/F Tac?/Disp TG 10012
...
J Tac?/Disp TG 10026
...
J Tac?/Disp TG 10029
...
J Tac? TG 10037
...
H/J Tac? TG 10041
A/J Tac? TG 10042
J Tac? TG 10043
...
J Tac? TG 10089
...
J Tac? TG 10094
...
J Tac? TG 10097
...
J Tac? TG 10099
........
10101-10205 (aka The Troops template)
.......
A/C Tac? TG 10216

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