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Part 90 License Question

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Hey Radio Reference,


Soon I plan to get a commercial system(part 90) up and running, I am all set on the main part of the licensing but I am confused on the process of getting your license cleared for encryption(specially AES-256). If this information is needed, it will be a P25 UHF system running on a quantar.


Are there specific emission designators? Or is there a different process?


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Hey Radio Reference,


Soon I plan to get a commercial system(part 90) up and running, I am all set on the main part of the licensing but I am confused on the process of getting your license cleared for encryption(specially AES-256). If this information is needed, it will be a P25 UHF system running on a quantar.


Are there specific emission designators? Or is there a different process?


Regards,
Kyle
If you are using P25 or DMR simply use those emission designators. There is no special coordination or FCC notification for the encryption.

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Right, nothing special you need to do about encryption. FCC doesn't track that.

Only thing you need to do is make sure your repeater is set up to beacon out your FCC issued call sign in the clear. The Quantar will do that.
 

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If you are using P25 or DMR simply use those emission designators. There is no special coordination or FCC notification for the encryption.

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Alright thanks, that’s what I thought.

Thanks!


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Right, nothing special you need to do about encryption. FCC doesn't track that.

Only thing you need to do is make sure your repeater is set up to beacon out your FCC issued call sign in the clear. The Quantar will do that.
Ok.

I was planning on saying the callsign and other info manually daily as well.

Thanks, gladly appreciated.


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Won't hurt to do that, but sort of pointless if you are running full time encryption. Just set up the Quantar to CW ID it every 15 minutes.
Was going to do something like that as well. Good point though.

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Does this go the same for government agency licenses?
Depends on what you mean by "government".

Federal stuff is under the NTIA rules, not the FCC.
State, County, City, etc. are under FCC.

FCC rules for Part 90 says that identification must be made every 15 minutes. Public safety users can ID every 30 minutes.
eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations
The base station/repeater can do the ID'ing for the mobiles/portables. Often you'll hear dispatchers still toss out the call sign in some cases. Usually most repeaters are programmed to do it. It's often sent without a PL/DPL tone, so users don't have to listen to it.

Federal stuff, for the most part, has to do it at least once each hour when in use. The base station can ID for all the mobiles/portables.
 

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It is a local government agency, thanks for the info.

But I was asking about encryption if you need to change anything on your license.
 
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