Patch Questions

[infotec]

Someone mentioned the co-op effort between Denver and Lakewood yesterday morning. I was following the traffic when Lakewood decided to patch to Denver channel 4. (District 4?)

How do you monitor these patches? Is there a specific TG on either system?

 

[jimmnn]

Someone mentioned the co-op effort between Denver and Lakewood yesterday morning. I was following the traffic when Lakewood decided to patch to Denver channel 4. (District 4?)

How do you monitor these patches? Is there a specific TG on either system?

Depends which agencies are involved often 460.425 is used or 00-001, 00-002, 00-003 on the Denver system or other agencies will normally stay on there primary (like Jeffco 1401) and that will be patched in.

Jim<

 

[infotec]

Yeah ... I know they use CLEER frequently. But in the case of yesterday's incident, they went to a straight patch. Not really sure how they do it since both systems are independent of the state DTRS system. Are these patches broadcast via point-to-point T1 between agencies? Or some other mechanism?

(Once again I ask you to ignore my newbie ignorance)

Paul

 

[rick521]

Yeah ... I know they use CLEER frequently. But in the case of yesterday's incident, they went to a straight patch. Not really sure how they do it since both systems are independent of the state DTRS system.

(Once again I ask you to ignore my newbie ignorance) )

Paul

There is life in Colorado besides DTRS. M/A-COM systems can talk to one another too.

 

[Scan-Denver]

Yeah ... I know they use CLEER frequently. But in the case of yesterday's incident, they went to a straight patch. Not really sure how they do it since both systems are independent of the state DTRS system.

(Once again I ask you to ignore my newbie ignorance)

Paul

Denver's patch talkgroup is 00-003.
Denver Districts 1-6 talkgroups are... 04-021(Dist 1), 04-041(Dist 2), 04-061(Dist 3), 00-081(Dist 4), 00-101(Dist 5), 00-121(Dist 6).

Denver's communication center has access to Lakewood's radio system and CLEER and can patch the 2 systems together using the patch channel thus enabling all Denver units and all Lakewood units including their respective dispatcher's to communicate together.

 

[infotec]

Uhhhh ... thanks Rick?
Yes, I realize that there are systems outside the DTRS or I wouldn't have said that Lakewood and Devner operated outside the DTRS.

Do you have any useful info for me?

 

[infotec]

Thanks Scan-Denver. That is the info that I was looking for.

 

[Scan-Denver]

Uhhhh ... thanks Rick?
Yes, I realize that there are systems outside the DTRS or I wouldn't have said that Lakewood and Devner operated outside the DTRS.

Do you have any useful info for me?

Now now, that is the Sheriff you are talking to - better watch yourself !!!

 

[infotec]

LOL ... I wasn't trying to be an ass.

Sorry if it came off that way.

Paul

 

[Scan-Denver]

Thanks Scan-Denver. That is the info that I was looking for.

No problem - good luck !

 

[rick521]

Previous Posts on Patching

Ooops. Looks like the old guy was too slow, went looking for a couple posts I knew I had seen. Sorry this took so long hope they help.

http://radioreference.com/modules.p...p;postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

http://radioreference.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=25736

I think there are some others but only found these two right now.

 

[infotec]

Thanks!

 

[Scan-Denver]

Yep, Rick is the man !! :lol:

 

[eyes00only]

Actually Denver has 6 patch tg's. I have even heard the DEA & Denver on a patch ( exact transmission on DEA UHF freq ). Normally, but not always patch one is DIA FD, patch two is FERN. The DEA patch was on 2! The talk groups are / 1-2-3-4-5-6 / 00-001 - 00-002 etc.....................

Jerry

 

[Scan-Denver]

Actually Denver has 6 patch tg's. I have even heard the DEA & Denver on a patch ( exact transmission on DEA UHF freq ). Normally, but not always patch one is DIA FD, patch two is FERN. The DEA patch was on 2! The talk groups are / 1-2-3-4-5-6 / 00-001 - 00-002 etc.....................

Jerry

Patch channels 4, 5, & 6 aren't reserved for anything special are they ? More or less at the dispatchers discression ??

 

[jimmnn]

Actually Denver has 6 patch tg's. I have even heard the DEA & Denver on a patch ( exact transmission on DEA UHF freq ). Normally, but not always patch one is DIA FD, patch two is FERN. The DEA patch was on 2! The talk groups are / 1-2-3-4-5-6 / 00-001 - 00-002 etc.....................

Jerry

Patch channels 4, 5, & 6 aren't reserved for anything special are they ? More or less at the dispatchers discression ??

Correct and rarely used.

Jim<

 

[Scan-Denver]

Correct and rarely used.

Jim<

Thanks Jim !