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Patched Talkgroups When In Scan Mode

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Just a quick question for the Edacs experts here at RR.

On an Edacs system, is it possible to pick up patched talkgroups when in SCAN mode ?

I have tried it on an LPE and Orion radio .. and neither of the radios stop on the talkgroups that are patched.

The radios of course work fine when not in scan mode.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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I'm not aware of any EDACS radios that would decode patches unless they were parked on that TG. Scan can be on or off, but you have to be parked on the TG to hear the patched traffic.

The newest Uniden XT models do decode EDACS patches on scanned TG's. Maybe some of the older Uniden scanners do too...
 

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Like even my BC246T will properly pick up patches when in scan mode. I think that it is limited as to the number of patches it can track but I know that it will at least do one patch.

My GRE500 however will not scan Edacs patches at all .. and the only way to receive any transmissions on these patches is to manually program the patch in separately.

For example: Talkgroup 100 and talkgroup 105 are patched together on patch 200.

The Uniden will allow you to scan 100 or 105 and it will stop when there is a transmission. The GRE will only work if you program in TG 200, while you don't have to do this on the Unidens.

The Macom radios work the same as the GRE .. in that you have to program in 200 as well in order to receive the transmissions (when in scan mode .. )

I am wondering if it is a programming issue .. or is this how the Macom radios are designed to work ?
 

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Just a quick question for the Edacs experts here at RR.

On an Edacs system, is it possible to pick up patched talkgroups when in SCAN mode ?

I have tried it on an LPE and Orion radio .. and neither of the radios stop on the talkgroups that are patched.

The radios of course work fine when not in scan mode.

Any help would be appreciated.
The answer to your question is "NO & YES". When two or more EDACS talk groups are "C3 MAESTRO CONSOLE PATCHED TOGETHER", the two or more group ID's become a new "SAID" or System Assigned ID group number that the terminal radio will overlook unless the "SAID" is programmed into the scanning radio. This is the "NO" part of my answer to your question. This "SAID" will vary from patch to patch depending on what is patched and what console set up the patch and how many patches are assigned at the same time.

The system administrator can configure fixed "SAID's" from the system's CSD & IMC Manager servers that will allow for the same "SAID" to be used all of the time. This "SAID(s)" could then be programmed into a terminal radio and scanned.

I don't know if you can use this pre-programmed "SAID" to talk from the terminal radio, but it is a work around to the patched scan scenario that you asked about.

If the patch is created by some other means, such as a Zetron / Radio interface console, or ACU1000 with radios, then this "SAID" condition does not happen so there is no problem scanning.
 

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Ok .. thanks for the reply. I think that the only way I can fix this is to program the patch talkgroups (SAID's .. as you referred to them) in the radio and then I should be fine. On the system I monitor .. they use the same ones over and over again, so I think I would be fine if I just reprogram the radio.
 
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